Stress and Failure in Theoretical Physics

In summary, the conversation discusses the struggles and frustrations of a theoretical physicist in their work. They describe the difficulty of finding one right answer among a thousand wrong ones, and the pressure to produce small results in a field that is often disconnected from experiments. The speaker also mentions their own sources of stress, such as looming graduation and neglecting other aspects of life. There is a discussion about whether the physicist is cut out for the job, with one person suggesting they may be in over their head and another saying they may just need a break. Overall, the conversation highlights the challenges and sacrifices that come with pursuing a career in theoretical physics.
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VenusFlytrap
My resident theoretical physicist, who I love dearly, is often very distraught. He describes his days of wracking his brains as painful, unproductive, and, at worst, a tedious backtrack through a bunch of stuff that he got wrong and must redo or unthink.

Please help me to understand what he is going through. The thousand wrong answers he must slog through seem not to make up for the one right one, and one right answer is of course not much. How do you all do it? Tell me about your lives, your mental state? How hard do you work for small results?
 
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I hate to say it, but he may just be in over his head. It sounds like he may not be cut out for the job. That doesn't mean it's his fault. Without knowing his experience and the job requirements, the clarity of his job assignment, support from superiors, etc... no one can possibly tell.
 
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I disagree with Evo. I wouldn't say he's not cut out for it just because he sometimes experiences difficulty and stress.

"Big" results in theoretical physics are hard to come by, at least in the high-energy field. In this field, theory has stretched so far beyond the reach of experiments that there is no way to judge what is an important result and what isn't; whether a paper turns out to be important has more to do with whether it gains popularity (which in turn has to do with a lot of other factors including whether it is understandable or easily applied to other problems).

I believe condensed matter theory is somewhat difficult as well. However, quantum information theory seems to have a lot going on, and theoretical biophysics is wide open, unclaimed territory.

Anyway, I work in high-energy theory, and I sometimes experience the things you describe (minus the anger and the feeling like it's a waste of time). Problems are open-ended, and a good approach to solving them is not always clear. You have to try things to get an idea of what works, and you will frequently backtrack due either to trying the wrong thing, or making a mistake. Sometimes I have to completely redo someone else's work because there is a typo in their paper, etc.

For the things that I work on, you have to enjoy playing around with the math, which is something I spend many hours doing. It is occasionally frustrating when I can't figure out how to proceed, but when I eventually do, the "A ha!" feeling outweighs the earlier frustration. One thing that motivates me through the frustrating part is that I'm the one who dared go down the path, however difficult it is, and I'll be the one to find and share the result (it helps to know that the result is expected to have some value or beauty, of course).

I don't feel that my results are "small" or unimportant (I have found whole infinite families of classical solutions to various supergravity theories), but they are not huge either. Any given result in high-energy theory today has a small audience; there will not be another Einstein or Feynman for a very long time, because today high-energy theoretical physics is very disconnected from experiment.

I can tell you my biggest sources of stress are these:

1. Looming graduation and the uncertain future beyond that. Will I get a job in physics that pays enough? If not, what will I do?

2. Spending so much time working on problems that I neglect other things, like going to the beach or cleaning the office.

The reason for spending so much time working is partly because I enjoy it, partly because I get an idea and I'm excited to try it and see where it leads (which may take many hours of doing math), and partly because I'm feeling some pressure to finish some more papers quickly, due to #1.

But even though the math is fun to play with, it can get depressing to allow the apartment to fall into disarray, or to miss out on social activity. Striking a balance is important.

I say, if he is merely feeling a little burnt out, maybe he needs to take a break and catch up with his non-physics life for a few days. If he is not having fun at all, to the point that he hates working on physics, then I'd say maybe he isn't cut out for it. Is he able to finish a calculation and get a paper out the door in a reasonable amount of time, or does he just spin his wheels and get frustrated? It's normal to occasionally get stuck, but if he can't figure out how to get un-stuck, then that's a problem.

Certainly if he doesn't enjoy it, it could benefit him to think of something else he might enjoy. Especially if it's something that pays well...
 
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Ben Niehoff said:
I disagree with Evo. I wouldn't say he's not cut out for it just because he sometimes experiences difficulty and stress.
I said it may not be his fault. And the OP doesn't say "sometimes". He said
He describes his days of wracking his brains as painful, unproductive, and, at worst, a tedious backtrack through a bunch of stuff that he got wrong and must redo or unthink.
That's pretty severe.
 
  • #5
By all accounts (which I gather from his colleagues), he IS cut out for the job. I honestly don't know what he does all day. It is more than likely that I don't hear about the successes as much as the failures.

Thanks for your thoughtful reply, Ben, instead of dismissing me. Looming job market problems are most definitely stressful, that much I can definitely understand.

To be honest, I don't know if I can answer your other questions about stuck and unstuck, since its hard for me to know the intellectual processes behind this stuff. You might be right about burn out - a change of scenery and a paycheck would help, I bet.

Do you find that you go through cycles at all, of being all gung-ho and then more of a clock-punching mentality?
 

What is stress in theoretical physics?

Stress in theoretical physics refers to the pressure or tension that a physicist experiences while trying to understand and solve complex problems or theories. It can manifest as mental or emotional strain and can be caused by a variety of factors such as time constraints, high expectations, and fear of failure.

How does stress affect a physicist's work?

Stress can have both positive and negative effects on a physicist's work. In small doses, stress can increase motivation and focus, leading to more productive work. However, excessive stress can hinder problem-solving abilities and creativity, leading to mistakes and failures.

What are some common causes of failure in theoretical physics?

Some common causes of failure in theoretical physics include incorrect assumptions or models, lack of data or evidence, and human error. Additionally, the complexity and uncertainty of the subject matter can also contribute to failures in understanding and solving problems.

How can failure in theoretical physics be beneficial?

Failure in theoretical physics can lead to important discoveries and advancements. When a hypothesis or theory is proven wrong, it can prompt scientists to rethink their approach and come up with new and innovative ideas. Failure can also teach valuable lessons and lead to a deeper understanding of the subject matter.

What strategies can a physicist use to manage stress and failure?

Some strategies for managing stress and failure in theoretical physics include setting realistic goals, taking breaks to recharge and refocus, seeking support and guidance from colleagues, and maintaining a positive mindset. It is also important to remember that failure is a natural part of the scientific process and to learn from mistakes rather than dwell on them.

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