String theory and Lorentz invariance - 10D vs. 4D....

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between string theory and Lorentz invariance, specifically questioning whether Lorentz invariance is maintained in 4D spacetime versus the full 10D framework of string theory. Participants explore implications of potential violations of Lorentz invariance in higher dimensions and the observable effects of probing compactified dimensions with test particles.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether string theory's Lorentz invariance applies in 4D or 10D, noting a potential conflict where 4D Lorentz invariance could break 10D Lorentz invariance.
  • Another participant inquires about the observable consequences of probing compactified dimensions with a test particle, seeking to understand what evidence could confirm the existence of extra dimensions.
  • A follow-up question is raised regarding the effects of Lorentz invariance not being satisfied in the compactified dimensions and what implications this might have.
  • One participant shares links to external resources that may provide additional context or information on the topic.
  • A further elaboration on the second question discusses the expected behavior of a proton when accelerated to probe the curled-up dimensions, questioning whether it would simply appear as a massive particle in 3D space.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express uncertainty regarding the implications of Lorentz invariance in different dimensional frameworks, and no consensus is reached on the observable effects or the nature of Lorentz invariance in string theory.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge limitations in their understanding and the complexity of the topic, with references to external materials suggesting a need for further exploration of the concepts discussed.

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Hi all,

Clarification question: I've read that string theory is manifestly Lorentz invariant - however, I'm confused about this being true in 4D spacetime or in the full 10D setting of the theory (well, one version anyway). At some point I'd also read in a paper that 4D Lorentz invariance necessarily breaks Lorentz invariance in 10D ... however, I've misplaced the reference, unfortunately.

If Lorentz invariance in 10D is not satisfied, doesn't this have serious implications? (even if those dimensions are compactified) Or from a GR perspective, does one only care about the 4 extended spacetime dimensions?
 
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And a follow up: if we were somehow able to achieve the required energies to probe the curled up dimensions with a test particle (say a proton), what would one expect to observe, to actually verify the existence of the extra dimensions (I've been unable to find info on this).

Thanks.
 
Perhaps there's a better way I could ask the question? If in the compactified 6 dimensions, Lorentz invariance is not satisfied, what effects would this have? I'd appreciate any input.
 
Thanks @fresh_42. Going to back my second question:
asimov42 said:
And a follow up: if we were somehow able to achieve the required energies to probe the curled up dimensions with a test particle (say a proton), what would one expect to observe, to actually verify the existence of the extra dimensions (I've been unable to find info on this).

So we accelerate the proton to the point where it acquires sufficient momentum to 'move' in the curled up space - what do we observe (in our particle accelerator)? Simply a massive particle that stops moving in 3D? (because a momentum change to the 6 curled up dimensions would be unobservable) ... that is, what would one expect to happen to the proton at the exact point where it gained sufficient momentum?
 

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