Structure of the modified nucleoside 2',3'-dideoxy-3'-fluorocytidine

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The discussion revolves around the structural representation of the modified nucleoside 2',3'-dideoxy-3'-fluorocytidine, focusing on how to accurately depict its molecular structure based on modifications to the standard nucleoside cytidine. The scope includes conceptual understanding of nucleosides versus nucleotides, as well as the chemistry involved in making specific substitutions on the ribose ring.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests starting with the structure of regular nucleoside cytidine and then making the necessary substitutions to create the modified version.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of understanding the difference between nucleosides and nucleotides.
  • A question is raised about the specific modifications, particularly whether to remove both hydroxyl (OH) groups at the bottom and replace the 3' OH with a fluorine (F) atom.
  • One participant expresses difficulty in providing assistance without visual aids and encourages sharing a drawing of the current understanding.
  • There is a suggestion to consider valence electrons when making substitutions, indicating that the atom most similar to fluorine should be replaced at the 3' position.
  • A participant notes that the homework questions are designed to deepen understanding of the relationship between chemistry and biology, advising a focus on concepts rather than rote memorization.
  • A link to an image of the expected structure is provided as a reference for the modified nucleoside.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the need to start with the basic structure of cytidine and make specific modifications, but there is uncertainty regarding the exact nature of those modifications and how to represent them accurately. No consensus is reached on the best approach to drawing the modified structure.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the importance of understanding chemical bonding and valence electrons, suggesting that these concepts are crucial for accurately depicting the modified nucleoside. There is an implied complexity in the modifications that may not be fully resolved in the discussion.

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how would i even begin this problem:

Draw the structure of te modified nucleoside 2',3'-dideoxy-3'-fluorocytidine
 
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First draw the regular nucleoside cytidine. Then make the substitutions on the ribose ring at the mentioned positions to get the modified cytidine.
 


And understand the difference between a nucleoside and a nucleotide...
 


so once i draw nucleoside cytidine, do i take both of the bottom OH off and then put a F on the spot i removed the 3' OH??
 


This type of question is REALLY hard to help with without pictures. Do you have a scanner that you can upload your attempt at a drawing as a picture or attachment so we can see what you have so far?

Something else to consider as you're trying to make substitutions, think about valence electrons. Which of the atoms around that 3' position is most similar to Fluorine? That's the one that Fluorine is going to replace.

I can see that your whole series of homework questions is trying to get you to think about the chemistry while you're learning about these different biological molecules. Your teacher/professor clearly wants you to understand the relationship between the chemistry and biology and not just learn to match patterns and repeat memorized modifications to the molecules, so my big tip here is to refresh your memory about what types of bonds different atoms like to form, and how many valence electrons they have.

You may or may not have done it already, but I'm predicting from this direction of inquiry that a next step will involve understanding things like partial charges on the whole molecules, which will tell you a lot about how they interact in the big "soup" called a cell. So, put good effort into understanding the concepts here, not just trying to plug groups haphazardly onto molecules until someone says they're in the right place. :wink:
 


it will be like this:

http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/5053/cytidinesd5.jpg
 
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