Subject with the hairiest calculations?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around identifying particularly challenging calculations in mathematics and physics, with a focus on antiderivatives, series solutions of differential equations, asymptotic approximations, and topology. Participants share their experiences and opinions on which calculations they find most difficult.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Debate/contested, Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants mention that antiderivatives, especially those involving partial fractions and trigonometric substitutions, can be very difficult to compute.
  • Others propose that series solutions of differential equations, particularly when determining the radius of convergence, can be even more challenging.
  • One participant suggests that asymptotic approximation solutions, especially in boundary layer theory problems, are also quite complex.
  • Another participant references a historical perspective, noting that asymptotic approximation has been viewed as particularly troublesome, citing a remark attributed to Newton regarding the difficulties of such studies.
  • There is a mention of topology as having particularly difficult calculations, although specifics are not provided.
  • One participant reflects on the process of obtaining asymptotic expansions, indicating that it often requires repeated integration by parts.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of opinions on what constitutes the most challenging calculations, indicating that there is no consensus on a single "worst" calculation. Multiple competing views remain regarding the difficulty of various mathematical and physical problems.

Contextual Notes

Some discussions may depend on individual experiences and definitions of difficulty, and the complexity of calculations may vary based on context and specific problems.

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some antiderivatives (partial fractions, trig sub, etc) can be nightmares to compute, but I remember series solutions of differential equations being worse, especially if finding the radius of convergence is included. can anyone think of things that are worse to calculate?
 
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Any Asymptotic approximation solutions - especially boundary layer theory problems
 
Asymptodic approximation is (or was befor cas) a good canidate as Newton told Machin that "his head never ached but with his studies on the moon.". Topology has horrible calculations.
 
i can imagine that... looks like to get an asymptotic expansion you usually integrate by parts over & over.
 

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