Subsequences of bounded monotonically increasing function

In summary, we can show that for a sequence of monotonically increasing functions on ##\mathbb{R}## with ##0\leq f_n(x)\leq 1## for all ##x## and ##n##, there exists a subsequence ##n_k## and a function ##f(x) = \underset{k\to\infty}{\lim}f_{n_k}(x)## for every ##x\in \mathbb{R}##. This is shown by defining ##f(x) = \underset{r<x}{\sup}\{f(r)\}## where ##r## is rational and ##x## is arbitrary, showing that ##f_{n_k}(x
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Assume that ##\{f_n\}## is a sequence of monotonically increasing functions on ##\mathbb{R}## with ## 0\leq f_n(x) \leq 1 \forall x, n##. Show that there is a subsequence ##n_k## and a function ##f(x) = \underset{k\to\infty}{\lim}f_{n_k}(x)## for every ##x\in \mathbb{R}##.

(1) Show that some subsequence nk converges for all rational r. This isn't too hard.
(2) Define ##f(x) = \underset{r<x}{\sup}\{f(r)\}## where ##r## is rational and ##x## is arbitrary.
(3) Show ##f_{n_k} (x) \to f(x) \forall x## where ##f## is continuous.

This proof seems sketchy:

If ##f## is continuous then we need to show ##|f(x)-f_n(x)|<\epsilon## for any ##x,\epsilon>0## and sufficiently large ##n##. Well, ##|f(x)-f_n(x)|=|\underset{r<x}{\sup}\{f(r)\}-\underset{r<x}{\sup} \{f_n(r)\}|=|\underset{r<x}{\sup} \{f(r)-f_n(r)\}|=|\epsilon_2|## for sufficiently large ##n## by part a). Then changing the form of the epsilon's this would prove the claim.

Is this the right idea?

(4) Show that f has at most countably many discontinuities and so there. is a further subsequence nl along which fnl (x) → f(x) for every x ∈ R.

I showed that ##f## has at most countably many discontinuities, but how does this imply there is a subsequence that converges to ##f(x)## for all ##x##? Do I just "throw out" any function that "creates" a discontinuity? By this I mean, if ##f## is discontinuous at ##y## then remove all the functions in the sequence that either have values larger than ##f(y+)## at ##y## or functions with values smaller than ##f(y-)## at ##y##.
 
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Never mind.
 
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RBG said:
Assume that ##\{f_n\}## is a sequence of monotonically increasing functions on ##\mathbb{R}## with ## 0\leq f_n(x) \leq 1 \forall x, n##. Show that there is a subsequence ##n_k## and a function ##f(x) = \underset{k\to\infty}{\lim}f_{n_k}(x)## for every ##x\in \mathbb{R}##.

(1) Show that some subsequence nk converges for all rational r. This isn't too hard.
(2) Define ##f(x) = \underset{r<x}{\sup}\{f(r)\}## where ##r## is rational and ##x## is arbitrary.
(3) Show ##f_{n_k} (x) \to f(x) \forall x## where ##f## is continuous.

This proof seems sketchy:

If ##f## is continuous then we need to show ##|f(x)-f_n(x)|<\epsilon## for any ##x,\epsilon>0## and sufficiently large ##n##. Well, ##|f(x)-f_n(x)|=|\underset{r<x}{\sup}\{f(r)\}-\underset{r<x}{\sup} \{f_n(r)\}|=|\underset{r<x}{\sup} \{f(r)-f_n(r)\}|=|\epsilon_2|## for sufficiently large ##n## by part a). Then changing the form of the epsilon's this would prove the claim.

Is this the right idea?
Can you explain this step:
##|f(x)-f_n(x)|=|\underset{r<x}{\sup}\{f(r)\}-\underset{r<x}{\sup} \{f_n(r)\}|##?
It looks as if you assume here that ##f_n## is continuous in ##x##, but that is not necessarily the case.
Also, you don't have to show that ##|f(x)-f_n(x)|<\epsilon## for any ##x,\epsilon>0## and sufficiently large ##n##. You have to prove that for the subsequence defined in 1): ##|f(x)-f_{n_k}(x)|<\epsilon## ...
Use that ##f## is monotonically increasing, the continuity of ##f## at ##x##, and the denseness of the rational numbers.

RBG said:
(4) Show that f has at most countably many discontinuities and so there. is a further subsequence nl along which fnl (x) → f(x) for every x ∈ R.

I showed that ##f## has at most countably many discontinuities, but how does this imply there is a subsequence that converges to ##f(x)## for all ##x##? Do I just "throw out" any function that "creates" a discontinuity? By this I mean, if ##f## is discontinuous at ##y## then remove all the functions in the sequence that either have values larger than ##f(y+)## at ##y## or functions with values smaller than ##f(y-)## at ##y##.
You can prove 4) in essentially the same way you constructed the subsequence in 1). That ##f## has at most countably many discontinuities is indeed the key.
 
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Thank you!
 

1. What is a bounded monotonically increasing function?

A bounded monotonically increasing function is a mathematical function that is always increasing and has a finite upper bound. This means that as the input values increase, the output values also increase and eventually reach a maximum value.

2. What is a subsequence in relation to a bounded monotonically increasing function?

A subsequence of a bounded monotonically increasing function is a sequence of values that are taken from the original function, but in a specific order. These values are still increasing and bounded by the maximum value of the original function.

3. How are subsequences useful in studying bounded monotonically increasing functions?

Subsequences can provide valuable information about the behavior and properties of a bounded monotonically increasing function. By studying the values of the subsequence, we can gain insight into the overall behavior of the function and its limits.

4. Can a bounded monotonically increasing function have an unbounded subsequence?

No, a bounded monotonically increasing function cannot have an unbounded subsequence. Since the function itself is bounded, all subsequences taken from it will also be bounded by the same maximum value.

5. What is the significance of studying subsequences of bounded monotonically increasing functions?

Studying subsequences allows us to better understand the behavior and properties of a bounded monotonically increasing function. It can also help us make predictions about the function's behavior in the long run, even if we only have information about a limited number of values.

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