Suggestions for a 1st Year Physics Book/Program for Small ND School

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The discussion focuses on recommendations for a suitable physics textbook or program for a small group of 12th-grade students in a North Dakota school. The participants explore options that would effectively introduce the students to physics, considering their limited background in the subject and mathematics.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that the students will have had some trigonometry but no calculus, suggesting that preliminary calculus knowledge is essential for understanding physics concepts deeply.
  • Another participant recommends "Fundamentals of Physics" by Resnick and Halliday or "Concepts of Physics" by H. C. Verma, contingent on the students' calculus knowledge.
  • A different participant mentions that there are algebra and trigonometry-based introductory physics textbooks suitable for non-physics majors, specifically referencing "Serway & Vuille" as a potential option.
  • One participant expresses skepticism about high school physics textbooks, arguing that they may complicate the subject unnecessarily and suggesting that university-level texts could be more beneficial.
  • Another participant mentions the existence of an algebra-based version of Halliday and Resnick but admits uncertainty about its quality.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing opinions on the appropriateness of high school versus university-level textbooks, with some advocating for the latter while others suggest sticking to high school materials. There is no consensus on a single recommended textbook or approach.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the students' lack of calculus knowledge as a significant factor influencing textbook choice, and there is uncertainty regarding the effectiveness of various recommended texts for high school students.

Who May Find This Useful

Educators and curriculum developers looking for introductory physics resources for high school students, particularly those with limited mathematical backgrounds.

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I am in a small school in North Dakota and will have four students in the class next year. I have been here two years after retiring from another state. Two years ago they took an online physical science class and from what I can figure out they learned very little to use for background. They will have had a bit of trigonometry.
So I am looking for an easier physics book that can introduce them to physics and somewhat bring them up to speed. Any suggestions for a book or program that would be most helpful to them? Thanks in advance!
 
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Can you tell what will be the age of the students?
 
they will be 12 grade students when they take Physics They are all currently in Algebra II as Juniors
 
As far as I can gauge from your first post, the students will not know calculus. If that's the case, I'll ask you to give at least first two weeks for calculus, at least preliminary differentiation and integration. Because without calculus, they won't be able to understand anything in Physics, and we can refer only middle school books in that case, which generally don't explain topics in depth.

With a knowledge of preliminary calculus, you can look forward to books like Fundamentals of Physics by Resnick and Halliday, or Concepts of Physics Volumes 1 and 2 by H. C. Verma.
 
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Thanks I will take a look at them
 
There are a number of algebra+trigonometry based intro physics textbooks which are used for college/university intro physics courses for non-physics majors. The one I used most recently several years ago was Serway & Vuille:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/1305952308/?tag=pfamazon01-20

This may be more material than needed for a high school course, but I don't know what books high schools commonly use.
 
There is (or was) also an algebra-based version of Halliday and Resnick. I have not seen it to know how good it is.
 
Vanadium 50 said:
There is (or was) also an algebra-based version of Halliday and Resnick. I have not seen it to know how good it is.
I've never heard of it.
 
jtbell said:
There are a number of algebra+trigonometry based intro physics textbooks which are used for college/university intro physics courses for non-physics majors. The one I used most recently several years ago was Serway & Vuille:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/1305952308/?tag=pfamazon01-20

This may be more material than needed for a high school course, but I don't know what books high schools commonly use.
Hm, judging from my own experience when I was a high-school student (in Germany however), don't use high school textbooks. They make the already difficult subject of physics even more difficult in their try to be "pedagogical". The first university-level physics book was a revelation to me. It was some general introductory book for the introductory experimental physics lecture, I've found at the public library (I think it was the classic by Gerthsen, of which I don't know whether there is an English translation, but it's still published today in its 25th edition!). It's of the kind like Tipler or Haliday. I think that helps your 12graders more than some confusing high school or "calculus free physics" book (the latter being a "contradictio in adjecto" ;-)).
 

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