Suitability of the NACA 0012 for aircrafts

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The discussion centers on the suitability of the NACA 0012 airfoil for use in commercial aircraft, exploring its advantages, disadvantages, and potential applications. The conversation includes considerations of aerodynamic performance, design evolution, and historical context.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that the NACA 0012 airfoil is suitable to a degree but lacks camber, which could limit its lift-to-drag ratio (L/D) during certain flight phases.
  • Others argue that the NACA 0012 is a basic airfoil primarily useful for academic purposes, and modern design techniques allow for the creation of more advanced airfoils that perform better in real-world applications.
  • One participant notes that the NACA 0012 may not be ideal for commercial jets operating at transonic speeds, where supercritical airfoils are preferred to minimize wave drag.
  • Another participant points out that commercial applications of the NACA 4 series airfoils, including the NACA 0012, have largely been abandoned due to poor L/D characteristics and limited design considerations regarding pressure regions affecting drag coefficients.
  • It is mentioned that only the NACA 6-series airfoils and their modifications have been found suitable for commercial use in modern aviation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the suitability of the NACA 0012 airfoil for commercial aircraft, with no consensus reached on its effectiveness compared to modern alternatives.

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Limitations in the discussion include assumptions about flight regimes, the historical context of airfoil design, and the evolving nature of aerodynamic performance criteria that may not be fully addressed.

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Hello,
I wanted to know how suitable is a NACA 0012 airfoil, in order to use it in commercial aircrafts?
I mean to say, what are basically its advantages and disadvantages.
And where it can be used.

Thank you very much
 
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Well it is suitable to a degree. It doesn't have any camber so it's L/D could be better for certain parts of the flight profile.

The real issue is that, in general, the NACA 0012 is a very basic airfoil that is a good academic exercise, but with modern design software and manufacturing techniques, it is easy to design much more advanced and better performing airfoil for real aircraft.
 
Probably not so great for commercial jets because they are traveling at transonic speeds and the 0012 is not designed for that flight regime. Supercritical airfoils are better to reduce wave drag.
 
v_arsha, just about all commercial uses of the Naca 4 series airfoils were abandoned 60 to 70 years ago. The reason being is the bad L/D characteristics bonehead mentioned. This could be translated visually as a very small drag bucket. Also, these airfoils were only designed with thickness location for lift in mind (if I remember correctly), and not high/low pressure regions which also affects CD. If you read "Theory of Wing Sections" by Abbot and Von Doenhoff, they have the complete story.

Essentially uses of the NACA 4 and 5 series have been dropped and only the 6-series (and its modified versions) has been found suitable for commercial uses.
 

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