Sum of capacitors connected in Series and in Parallel

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The discussion revolves around the calculation of the sum of capacitors connected in series and parallel, focusing on a specific circuit configuration. Participants are examining the correct representation of the circuit and the relationships between the capacitors.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the validity of a redrawn circuit diagram and question the arrangement of capacitors in series and parallel. Some express confusion about how to represent the sum of capacitors visually and seek clarification on the connections between them.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of the circuit's configuration, with some participants providing hints and guidance on how to approach the problem. Multiple interpretations of the circuit layout are being considered, and participants are encouraged to clarify their understanding of series and parallel connections.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the original circuit contains six nodes, and there is a discussion about the implications of these nodes on the classification of capacitors as being in series or parallel. There is also mention of specific capacitance values, which may affect the calculations being discussed.

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Homework Statement


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Find the sum value of capacitors.

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The Attempt at a Solution



I tried to redraw the scheme like in the picture below, but my teacher told me it's not correctly redrawn. I hope You'll prove to me that my redrawn scheme is correct... If not I'm more than happy to know the both: correctly redrawn scheme and the right answer.

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Looks fine to me the way you redrew it.
 
That looks correct to me.
Anyways, why did you spend time redrawing this when its clear which one are in series and parallel? :)
 
Hint. Start at the right hand side of the original drawing. Simplify the three caps in series then see what you have.
 
looks correct.
 
Yep it's correct.
I like moving from the far end of the circuit to the source (from left to right now). It's easier for me.
 
Pranav-Arora said:
That looks correct to me.
Anyways, why did you spend time redrawing this when its clear which one are in series and parallel? :)

Because I didn't know how those 4 parallel capacitors' sum will look like in the drawing...

Say I use the old drawing:

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Could Anyone tell me How will it look like after summing those 4 parallel capacitors?

This?:

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OR maybe This?:

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oh, and Please explain Your choice.
 
Neither is correct as the circuit doesn't have four capacitors in parallel.
 
If two elements are in parallel, they have to be connected to the same two nodes in the circuit. In the original circuit, there are six nodes: the four dots and the two corners on the right. You can see that no two elements are connected to the same two nodes. None of the elements is in parallel with another.

If two elements are in series, all of the current through one element has to flow through the other element. For this to happen, the two elements have to be connected end to end, and no other element can be connected to the node that connects the two elements because it will siphon off some of the current. In the original circuit, only the three capacitors on the right are in series. (Can you see that?) Using the formulas you have for combining capacitors, you'll find you can replace those three with an equivalent capacitance of 1/3 μF.

Now redraw the circuit with those three capacitors replaced by a single 1/3 μF capacitor. Are any capacitors in the new circuit in parallel or in series?
 
  • #10
vela said:
If two elements are in parallel, they have to be connected to the same two nodes in the circuit. In the original circuit, there are six nodes: the four dots and the two corners on the right. You can see that no two elements are connected to the same two nodes. None of the elements is in parallel with another.

If two elements are in series, all of the current through one element has to flow through the other element. For this to happen, the two elements have to be connected end to end, and no other element can be connected to the node that connects the two elements because it will siphon off some of the current. In the original circuit, only the three capacitors on the right are in series. (Can you see that?) Using the formulas you have for combining capacitors, you'll find you can replace those three with an equivalent capacitance of 1/3 μF.

Now redraw the circuit with those three capacitors replaced by a single 1/3 μF capacitor. Are any capacitors in the new circuit in parallel or in series?

Actually C1 = 2 μF so that total should be 2/3 μF
 
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Yes, of course. I mixed up the two values. Thanks for catching that.
 

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