Sum of Deviations: Proving $\sum_{i=1}^Nv_i(v_i - \langle v \rangle) = 0$

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The problem involves demonstrating that the sum of deviations from the average of a set of measurements \( v_i \) is zero. The average is defined as \( \langle v \rangle \equiv \frac{1}{N} \sum_{i=1}^N v_i \), and the task is to show that \( \sum_{i=1}^N v_i (v_i - \langle v \rangle) = 0 \). This falls under the subject area of statistics and averages.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the definition of the average and the nature of deviations. Some express uncertainty about how to mathematically express the sum of deviations, while others suggest expanding the summation to clarify the relationship between the terms. There is also a question about whether the provided expansions are sufficient to demonstrate the required result.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem. Some have attempted to expand the summation and clarify their understanding, while others are questioning the sufficiency of their approaches. There is no explicit consensus yet on how to proceed or what constitutes a complete demonstration.

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Some participants note confusion regarding the mathematical expression of the problem and the specific requirements for showing that the sum of deviations equals zero. There is also mention of a potential error in the formulation of the original equation.

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Homework Statement


The average value of N measurements of a quantity ##v_i## is defined as
$$ \langle v \rangle \equiv \frac {1}{N} \sum_{i=1}^Nv_i = \frac {1}{N}(v_1 + v_2 + \cdots v_N)$$
The deviation of any given measurement ##v_i## from the average is of course ##(v_i - \langle v \rangle)##. Show mathematically that the sum of all the deviations is zero; i.e. show that
$$\sum_{i=1}^Nv_i(v_i - \langle v \rangle) = 0$$

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The Attempt at a Solution


I understand that this is simply describing an average, but I am not sure how to express this mathematically. It makes sense to me that the sum of the deviations would be zero.
 
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kubaanglin said:

Homework Statement


The average value of N measurements of a quantity ##v_i## is defined as
$$ \langle v \rangle \equiv \frac {1}{N} \sum_{i=1}^Nv_i = \frac {1}{N}(v_1 + v_2 + \cdots v_N)$$
The deviation of any given measurement ##v_i## from the average is of course ##(v_i - \langle v \rangle)##. Show mathematically that the sum of all the deviations is zero; i.e. show that
$$\sum_{i=1}^Nv_i(v_i - \langle v \rangle) = 0$$
Your formula above is incorrect, as it has an extra ##v_i##.
The sum of the deviations is
$$\sum_{i = 1}^N (v_i - \bar{v})$$
Here ##\bar{v}## is the mean of the measurements ##v_i##.
kubaanglin said:

Homework Equations


##?##

The Attempt at a Solution


I understand that this is simply describing an average, but I am not sure how to express this mathematically. It makes sense to me that the sum of the deviations would be zero.
Simply expand the summation.
 
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$$((v_1 - \langle v \rangle) + (v_2 - \langle v \rangle) + \cdots (v_N - \langle v \rangle))$$
$$((v_1 - \frac {v_1 + v_2 + \cdots v_N}{N}) + (v_2 - \frac {v_1 + v_2 + \cdots v_N}{N}) + \cdots (v_N - \frac {v_1 + v_2 + \cdots v_N}{N}))$$
Is this sufficient to "show mathematically" that the sum of all the deviations is zero? I am just not sure what I am being asked to do.
 
kubaanglin said:
$$((v_1 - \langle v \rangle) + (v_2 - \langle v \rangle) + \cdots (v_N - \langle v \rangle))$$
$$((v_1 - \frac {v_1 + v_2 + \cdots v_N}{N}) + (v_2 - \frac {v_1 + v_2 + \cdots v_N}{N}) + \cdots (v_N - \frac {v_1 + v_2 + \cdots v_N}{N}))$$
Is this sufficient to "show mathematically" that the sum of all the deviations is zero? I am just not sure what I am being asked to do.

You are being asked to show that the summation you wrote above evaluates to ##0## for any possible inputs ##v_1, v_2, \ldots, v_N##.
 

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