Sum (sin(Pi*n)/(-1+n^2) , n=1infinity). n=1,2,3

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The discussion revolves around the evaluation of the infinite series Sum (sin(Pi*n)/(-1+n^2), n=1..infinity) as it relates to solving a partial differential equation (PDE) for the damped wave equation. Participants explore the mathematical implications of this series and its connection to Fourier series expansions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents the series and notes that Maple evaluates it to -1/2*Pi, seeking an explanation for this result.
  • Another participant suggests that the series may arise from a Fourier Series expansion, prompting further exploration of its origins.
  • A participant describes their work on the PDE u_tt + u_t - u_xx = 0, detailing initial and boundary conditions, and how the series expression appears in their solution.
  • This participant notes that for n=1, the term sin(Pi*n)/(-1+n^2) evaluates to 0, yet Maple provides a different solution, leading to uncertainty about the correctness of their findings.
  • Another participant points out that sin(n*Pi) is zero for any integer n, indicating that all terms except the first are zero, and suggests using L'Hôpital's rule to evaluate the limit as n approaches 1.

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Participants express uncertainty regarding the evaluation of the series and its implications. There is no consensus on the correctness of the results obtained through Maple or the interpretation of the series.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights potential limitations in the evaluation of the series, particularly concerning the treatment of terms that vanish and the application of L'Hôpital's rule. The dependency on the definitions and assumptions made in the context of the PDE is also noted.

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Hi everybody!

Solving a PDE for the damped wave equation I get with a solutions that part of it have the expression:

Sum (sin(Pi*n)/(-1+n^2) , n=1..infinity). n=1,2,3...

When calculating it with Maple I get this is equal to -1/2*Pi.

Can someone of you explain me why?

Thanks a lot!
 
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GerardEncina said:
Hi everybody!

Solving a PDE for the damped wave equation I get with a solutions that part of it have the expression:

Sum (sin(Pi*n)/(-1+n^2) , n=1..infinity). n=1,2,3...

When calculating it with Maple I get this is equal to -1/2*Pi.

Can someone of you explain me why?

Thanks a lot!

Did you get that expression from a Fourier Series expansion? Sometimes these sums arise by simply evaluating the FS at some point.
 
Yes, I'm trying to solve the PDE for the damped wave equations defined like:

u_tt+u_t-u_xx=0,

With Initial Conditions: u(x,0)=0 , u_t (x,0)=sin⁡(x)
And Boundary Conditions u(0,t)=u(Pi,t)=0

Finally I end with the solution u(x,t)=∑(n=1 to ∞) [exp^(-t/2)*(-4sin⁡(Pi*n))*sin⁡(sqrt(4n^2-1)*t/2)*sin(nx) / (Pi*sqrt(4n^2-1)*(-1+n^2))]

From here, there is the expression sin(Pi*n)/(-1+n^2), that for n=1 is 0. But solving it with Maple it gives u(x,t)=2/(3*sqrt(3))*exp^(-t/2)*sin(sqrt(3)*t/2)*sin(x).

I've also found that limit [when n-->1] of sin(Pi*n)/(-1+n^2) = -Pi/2; that plugged on the series give what Maple says.

But I'm still not sure if it is correct or not

Thanks!
 
GerardEncina said:
Yes, I'm trying to solve the PDE for the damped wave equations defined like:

u_tt+u_t-u_xx=0,

With Initial Conditions: u(x,0)=0 , u_t (x,0)=sin⁡(x)
And Boundary Conditions u(0,t)=u(Pi,t)=0

Finally I end with the solution u(x,t)=∑(n=1 to ∞) [exp^(-t/2)*(-4sin⁡(Pi*n))*sin⁡(sqrt(4n^2-1)*t/2)*sin(nx) / (Pi*sqrt(4n^2-1)*(-1+n^2))]

From here, there is the expression sin(Pi*n)/(-1+n^2), that for n=1 is 0. But solving it with Maple it gives u(x,t)=2/(3*sqrt(3))*exp^(-t/2)*sin(sqrt(3)*t/2)*sin(x).

I've also found that limit [when n-->1] of sin(Pi*n)/(-1+n^2) = -Pi/2; that plugged on the series give what Maple says.

But I'm still not sure if it is correct or not

Thanks!

\sin(n\pi) is zero for any integer n. So, all of your terms except for the first one is zero. The first is treated as non-zero because the denominator vanishes at n = 1. So, you use L'Hopital's rule to evaluate it instead.
 

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