Superfluidity, helium-3 and helium-4

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The discussion centers on the differences in the lambda points of helium-3 and helium-4, exploring the underlying mechanisms of superfluidity in these two isotopes. It touches on theoretical aspects, properties of the isotopes, and the nature of their superfluid states.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that the primary reason for the difference in lambda points is that helium-4 is a boson, allowing it to form a Bose-Einstein condensate directly, while helium-3 is a fermion, which requires the formation of Cooper pairs to achieve superfluidity.
  • It is mentioned that the superfluid transition temperatures differ significantly, with helium-4 having a much higher transition temperature compared to helium-3, which is sensitive to atomic interactions.
  • One participant introduces the concept of zero phonon modes in helium-4, suggesting similarities to fermion-like particles in helium-3, and discusses the role of quasiparticles in superfluidity.
  • Another participant emphasizes that while Bose-Einstein condensation is necessary for superfluidity, it is not sufficient on its own, highlighting the importance of phonon dispersion relations in determining superfluid behavior.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the fundamental differences between the superfluid mechanisms of helium-3 and helium-4, but there are varying interpretations and additional factors discussed, indicating that the discussion remains somewhat unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Some claims depend on specific definitions and assumptions about superfluidity and the properties of quasiparticles, which may not be universally agreed upon. The sensitivity of the transition temperature for helium-3 to atomic interactions is also noted but not fully explored.

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Why do helium-3 and helium-4 have different lambda points?
 
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Helium 3 also has drastically different density and boiling point.

The big reason for difference in lambda points is that while a helium 4 atom is a boson, and they can all go to ground state, helium 3 atoms are fermions. Which means they do not all fit to ground state.

Furthermore, superfluidity is something that can only happen to Bose condensate of bosons. Since helium 4 atoms already are bosons, they can directly form Bose condensate. Whereas fermions can only form Bose condensate if they somehow are turned into bosons by forming Cooper pairs. Quite different mechanism.
 


So you are asking why the two helium isotopes have different superfluid transition temperatures (only the [itex]T_c[/itex] of [itex]^4[/itex]He is called the lambda point). There is actually quite a large difference in the temperatures, three orders of magnitude. Fundamentally the reason is that [itex]^4[/itex]He is a boson and [itex]^3[/itex]He is a fermion. As a boson, [itex]^4[/itex]He can directly form a "Bose-Einstein condensate", which is the superfluid state. One could say that the wave functions of the helium atoms begin to overlap and they lose their identity. The fermionic [itex]^3[/itex]He, on the other hand, must form pairs of atoms, called Cooper pairs to form the condensate. This is because fermions do not like to be too close to each other due to the Pauli exclusion principle. This fermion transition temperature is very sensitive to the interactions between the atoms, and for [itex]^3[/itex]He is quite low being of the order of 1 mK.

So the short answer is that the mechanisms through which the two isotopes form the superfluid state are very different.
 


j.gal said:
Why do helium-3 and helium-4 have different lambda points?
It is more wonderful that both heliums can be superfluid!
It means that some structures in helium3 and helium4 are similar!

Minich explained me, that such structure is zero phonon modes in he4. Those phonon zero modes in he4 are similar to he3 atoms and are similar to fermion-like particles. The number of those modes in he4 is 3*(number of he4 atoms).

Superfluidity is due to dispersion relations of quasiparticles in helium. At some temperatures some number of quasiparticles become diode-like waves (superfluid modes) near Fermi surface.
 


M@2 said:
Minich explained me, that such structure is zero phonon modes in he4. Those phonon zero modes in he4 are similar to he3 atoms and are similar to fermion-like particles. The number of those modes in he4 is 3*(number of he4 atoms).

Yes, while necessary, Bose Einstein condensation is not sufficient to get superfluid behaviour. The linear dispersion of the phonons at low k values allows for superfluidity and determines the maximum velocity. This was nicely shown by Landau using Galilean invariance.
 

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