Superposition of eigenstates in QM

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The discussion revolves around the concept of superposition of eigenstates in quantum mechanics (QM), particularly focusing on the conditions under which a superposition can be considered an eigenstate. Participants explore the implications of degeneracy, the relationship between superposition and solutions to the Schrödinger equation, and the role of commutator relations in this context.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about why a superposition of eigenstates is not necessarily an eigenstate unless the states are degenerate.
  • Another participant clarifies that a quantum system prepared in an energy eigenstate can be expressed as a superposition of eigenstates, with the wave function represented as a sum of eigenfunctions weighted by probabilities.
  • A later reply suggests that the initial confusion may stem from overthinking the arithmetic involved in superposition and encourages working through specific examples.
  • One participant emphasizes that the key point is whether any state can be a superposition of eigenstates, rather than whether the superposition of two eigenstates is itself an eigenstate.

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Participants exhibit varying levels of understanding and interpretation of the superposition principle, with some expressing confusion and others providing clarifications. There is no clear consensus on the underlying reasons for the properties of superposition and eigenstates.

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Some participants note that the discussion may involve assumptions about the nature of eigenstates and their relationships, particularly regarding degeneracy and the implications of commutation relations, which remain unresolved.

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I am having trouble understanding the subtleties of this topic, which we've just covered in my QM course.

I guess, if I understand correctly, that the superposition of eigenstates is not necessary an eigenstate itself, unless the states are degenerate. I'm not sure if I really understand why this is (unless this is one of those things that "just is" in quantum and I'm not supposed to get it).

Yet it seems (also from my course discussions) that the superposition of solutions to the Schrödinger equation is also a solution, regardless to things being degenerate, or what not.

And I am not sure if I understand how this relates to the commutator relations - if two operators commute, they share some eigenstate, right? How does it relate to the superposition and degeneracy?

If anyone can elucidate this subject I'd be all sorts of grateful!
 
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If you prepare a quantum system in such a way that you know it has some energy E_n, that means that it is in an energy eigenstate \psi_n. In general, you don't know for certain what energy the system has; you know only the probabilities for various states. But you always know that its energy must be one of the eigenvalues of the energy operator. In this general case, we say that the system is in a superposition of the eigenstates, and it is always possible to write its wave function \psi as a superposition of the eigenfunctions:

\psi = \sum c_i \psi_{i},

where |c_i|^2 is the probability that it has energy E_i.
 
mhazelm said:
I guess, if I understand correctly, that the superposition of eigenstates is not necessary an eigenstate itself, unless the states are degenerate. I'm not sure if I really understand why this is (unless this is one of those things that "just is" in quantum and I'm not supposed to get it).

Yet it seems (also from my course discussions) that the superposition of solutions to the Schrödinger equation is also a solution, regardless to things being degenerate, or what not.
(Incidentally, your first statement assumes that you are considering eigenstates of your operator corresponding to different eigenvalues)

I suspect you're just overthinking it, and so you haven't looked for easy answers. Both of these happen to be fairly trivial arithmetic facts. The first one should be clear if you tried any example at all, except for the most utterly trivial ones. (I suggest working through it for the eigenvectors of 2x2 diagonal matrix with distinct diagonal entries) The second one is nothing more than the distributive rule.


Or... maybe it's not really these arithmetic facts that's giving you trouble, but instead that this appears to conflict with your understanding of other things? Of course, if that's the case, we can't really help if you don't tell us what's bothering you about it.
 
yea you shouldn't be concerned with whether the superposition of two eigenstates is an eigenstate. it's whether any state is a superposition of eigenstates that is important.
 

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