Surface area from bands: Calculus

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The problem involves calculating the surface area of a band cut from a sphere of radius R by parallel planes h units apart. Participants are tasked with demonstrating that the surface area is 2πRh, as stated in the problem.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the use of slicing methods and the concept of integrating to find surface area. There are questions about the correct interpretation of the band and whether it resembles a cone. Some express confusion about the need for slicing and the parameters involved in the calculations.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with various interpretations of the problem being explored. Some participants suggest using spherical coordinates and parametrization, while others question the necessity of slicing the band. There is no explicit consensus on the approach to take.

Contextual Notes

Participants note potential misunderstandings regarding the geometry of the band and its relation to a spherical shell. There is also mention of the need for clarity on the parameters and calculations required to demonstrate the surface area.

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Homework Statement



The shaded band shown here is cut from a sphere of radius Rby parallel planes hunits apart. Show that the surface area of the band is 2piRh.
The image is on this site: http://imgur.com/TCx1weD
http://imgur.com/TCx1weD





The Attempt at a Solution


How do I do this? I thought that it was given that the dS= 2pi*r dL, so since dL=h, it would simply be dS=2pi*rh, but then that doesn't make a lot of sense because I would have to take the integralto find x, but what are the points that I am taking the integral from? I am a bit confused. Please advise if you can.

Anytime I do this problem, I'm getting that ds= 2piR*dL, which is where I'm trying to get, but to find s, wouldn't you have to take the integral of that? This is where I'm confused.
 
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hi cathy! :smile:
cathy said:
The shaded band shown here is cut from a sphere of radius Rby parallel planes h units apart. Show that the surface area of the band is 2piRh.

always use the slicing method …

slice the band into tiny slices of height dh, and radius a function of h

then each slice will be very nearly a slice of a cone, and you can take its surface area to be that of a slice of a cone, which is … ? :wink:
 
hello! :)

but looking at the picture, the band isn't the slice of a cone, is it?
 
if you take the band, I automatically thing that it should be 2piR* the thickness, which in this case is h, so why do I need to slice?
Are there calculations necessary here?

Sorry, I am very confused as to to show the proof.
 
Perhaps I misunderstand something, but what's to be calculated seems to be part of a spherical shell. So you should parametrize the sphere (hint: spherical coordinates with fixed radius are the natural choice) and think about where the parameters run to cover the piece of the shell you want to calculate.
 
hello cathy! :smile:
cathy said:
but looking at the picture, the band isn't the slice of a cone, is it?

the bit of the Earth that you're living on is part of a slice of the same latitude, λ, that goes all the way round the earth

you probably think it looks flat!

so you'd calculate its area as the area of a slice of a cone at angle λ

(and the reason why you don't use dh is because the surface is slanting … dh is the difference in height, but the actual distance from top to bottom is longer)
 

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