Surface Area obtained by rotating a curve?

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The discussion focuses on calculating the surface area obtained by rotating the curve x = 3e^(2y) from y=0 to y=1 about the y-axis. Participants detail the use of integral calculus, specifically employing u-substitution and integration techniques to solve the problem. There is confusion regarding the limits of integration and the signs of the results, with one user mistakenly differentiating instead of integrating. The correct approach involves substituting u = 6e^(2y) + 1 and integrating accordingly. Ultimately, the conversation emphasizes the importance of careful integration and the application of trigonometric identities in solving complex integrals.
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1. Let the area of the surface obtained by rotating the curve x = 3e^(2y) from y=0 to y=1 about the y-axis
2. <br /> S= \int_{y_1} ^{y_2} 2 \pi x ds \ where \ ds=\sqrt{1+ \left( \frac{dx}{dy} \right) ^2} dy<br />
3. <br /> S=2\pi \int _{0} ^{1} x\sqrt{1+\left(\frac{dx}{dy}\right)^2} dy<br />
Let
<br /> u=6e^{2y} \Rightarrow \frac{du}{dy}=12e^2y \Rightarrow \frac{du}{4}=3e^{2y}dy<br />
<br /> S=2\pi \int \frac{1}{4} \sqrt{1+u^2} du<br />
I then got 2(pi) integral sec(theta)^3 d(theta) by substituting "u" for tan(theta)

I have been working on this problem for a while, and I am getting frustrated. What is the final result?
 
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All it takes is a u-substitution. Let u=6e^(2y)+1. Then du=12e^(2y) dy, and there's a nice factor of e^(2y) outside of your square root.
 
Hi,

this is correct, good work:

<br /> <br /> S=2\pi \int \frac{1}{4} \sqrt{1+u^2} du<br /> <br />

now u got basically an integral of I = sec(x)^3.
it's a tricky integral solving it is the art of integration :)
use integration by parts: u = sec(x); dv = sec(x)^2 dx
u get: I = uv - int( tan^2(x) sec(x) )

identity: tan^2(x) = sec^2(x) - 1
then you get the same integral on both sides of the equation but with opposite signs !

I = uv - int( sec^3(x) - sec(x) ) = uv - I + int( sec(x) )
I = 0.5* [ uv + int( sec(x) ) ]

here you go ! :)
 
Thank you guys for all your help.

Char. Limit made a great point, one that I overlooked. Here is what I did:

u == 6*E^(2y) + 1
du == 12*E^(2y)

integral_0^1 6e^(2y) pi sqrt(u) du
integral (pi sqrt(u))/2 du

After taking the integral I got: pi/(4 sqrt(u)).
I then plugged in for u getting: pi/(4 sqrt(6 e^(2 y)+1)) which I evaluated from 0 to 1, but I did not get the right answer! Not only that but the answer I got was negative.

Do I need to change the limits?
 
Flexer5 said:
Thank you guys for all your help.

Char. Limit made a great point, one that I overlooked. Here is what I did:

u == 6*E^(2y) + 1
du == 12*E^(2y)

integral_0^1 6e^(2y) pi sqrt(u) du
integral (pi sqrt(u))/2 du

After taking the integral I got: pi/(4 sqrt(u)).
I then plugged in for u getting: pi/(4 sqrt(6 e^(2 y)+1)) which I evaluated from 0 to 1, but I did not get the right answer! Not only that but the answer I got was negative.

Do I need to change the limits?

Woops! Instead of integrating, you accidentally differentiated. The integral of sqrt(u) is (2/3)u^(3/2).
 
I admit Char. Limit found a nice way to solve that integral, much better then messing with sec(x) :)
 
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