Surprising Fact: More English Speakers in India Than US

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The discussion centers around the claim that there are more English speakers in India than in the US, alongside various related observations and facts about language, pronunciation, and other seemingly unrelated topics. The scope includes cultural observations, language proficiency, and anecdotal experiences.

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  • Some participants assert that there are more English-speaking people in India than in the US, while others challenge this claim by discussing competence and fluency issues.
  • One participant shares a personal experience with customer service that highlights difficulties in communication, suggesting that fluency may vary.
  • Several participants discuss the pronunciation of "either" and "ether," with differing opinions on whether they can be pronounced the same without causing confusion.
  • There are various unrelated claims made about food, health statistics, and language, which appear to diverge from the main topic of English speakers.
  • A participant questions the validity of a mathematical claim regarding the lifting capacity of a device in relation to Avogadro's number, suggesting that the original statement may be incorrect.
  • Another participant expresses a desire for supporting evidence regarding the claim about English speakers, indicating a need for clarification and references.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express disagreement regarding the initial claim about English speakers, with some supporting it and others questioning its validity. The discussion remains unresolved, with multiple competing views presented.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference various unrelated facts and anecdotes, which may dilute the focus on the primary topic of English speakers in India and the US. There is also a mix of personal experiences and factual claims that may not be universally accepted.

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There are more English-speaking people in India, than in the US.
 
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Humans will never invent a device that can lift 6.02 x 10^23 items of anything large enough for a human to see - even with a microscope.

And, for those that don't recognize it, 6.02 x 10^23 is Avogadro's number - the number of molecules in a mole.

A glass of water has a little less than 14 moles of water, or about 8 x 10^24 molecules of water. That's more molecules in a glass of water than there are glasses of water in the ocean (about 5 x 10^21 cups of water in the ocean).

I was kind of shocked by the 5 x 10^21 cups of water in the ocean. Who filled up all those cups and whose going to clean them out?
 
We already have one similar thread, it is called random thoughts.
 
Ivan Seeking said:
There are more English-speaking people in India, than in the US.
Competence and fluency are a bit more problematic. I spend 2 hours on the phone today trying to get air-time added to my wife's TracFone after the automated process failed. Not fun. The help-desk guy couldn't reliably repeat the SN, PIN, etc needed to get those minutes into the phone, and he was impossible to understand. I had to ask him to repeat everything.
 
Borek said:
We already have one similar thread, it is called random thoughts.

Uh, no. That thread is loaded with nonsense and minor daily thoughts. This is supposed to be fact based.
 
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Bell peppers have twice as much vitamin C than oranges, by weight.
 
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Tarantula bites are not deadly to humans.
 
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Deep fried tarantulas taste like soft shelled crabs...with fur.
 
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Americans can hear a difference in pronunciation of the words "either" and "ether", but rarely recognize that they could just as well pronounce them the same, and nobody would notice.
 
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stevenb said:
Americans can hear a difference in pronunciation of the words "either" and "ether", but rarely recognize that they could just as well pronounce them the same, and nobody would notice.
I would notice. I don't just hear a difference, there really is a difference.
 
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stevenb said:
Americans can hear a difference in pronunciation of the words "either" and "ether", but rarely recognize that they could just as well pronounce them the same, and nobody would notice.
You mean if the person I spoke to didn't know what ether was?
 
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Evo said:
You mean if the person I spoke to didn't know what ether was?
What if you didn't know, ether? :-p
 
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When speaking about ether you better know what you are talking about, either you get banned.
 
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The skins of canned tangerine parts are removed by soaking them in HCl.
 
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Jimmy Snyder said:
I would notice. I don't just hear a difference, there really is a difference.

Are there any other Americans who wish to prove my "surprising fact"? :smile:
 
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jobyts said:
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All fixed for you.
 
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Ivan Seeking said:
There are more English-speaking people in India, than in the US.

There are more English-speaking people in US, than in the UK.
 
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what said:
There are more English-speaking people in US, than in the UK.
There are more English-speaking people in the UK than in England. :-p
 
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Honey is the only human food that never spoils. Honey dating back several thousand years is still edible.
 
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There are only one species of birds which can see in the color range we call blue: Owls.
 
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mugaliens said:
Honey is the only human food that never spoils. Honey dating back several thousand years is still edible.

That's amazing. Why doesn't it spoil?
 
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lisab said:
Bell peppers have twice as much vitamin C than oranges, by weight.

Sure, but who wants to drink bell-pepper juice for breakfast! :biggrin:

It is more likely that you will be killed by a pig than a shark.

Wow. You are more likely to die by your own hand than by someone else's [as a victim of violence].
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_causes_of_death_by_rate
 
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For most parts of the world, you're much more likely to die of the flu than be killed by a terrorist. In the US, more people are killed by bath-tubs than by terrorists.
 
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stevenb said:
Are there any other Americans who wish to prove my "surprising fact"? :smile:

Your fact is neither proved, nor is it true. In the "Middle American" accent at least, the two sounds indicated by "th" are very distinct, and as different as "t" is to "d." You cannot randomly flip-flop phonemes and expect people to understand what you're saying. Putting the "thorn" sound into "either" would sound like a speech impediment. It is much like pronouncing the "wh" in Cool Whip. If any grade school student said "ether" in place of "either," that would be fodder for some endless teasing.
 
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BobG said:
Humans will never invent a device that can lift 6.02 x 10^23 items of anything large enough for a human to see - even with a microscope.

Check my math, but it looks to me like this statement is wrong.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taisun is capable of lifting 20000 metric tons. That means 2x107kg, or 6.02x1023 objects weighting about 3.3x10-17kg. Assuming water density of 1000kg/m3, this means sphere with diameter around 400nm, while practical resolution limit for an optical microscope is around 200nm.
 

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