Swimmer's velocity relative to the shore (vectors)

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The discussion focuses on calculating a swimmer's velocity relative to the shore while swimming in a river with a current. The current flows at 1.33 m/s, and the swimmer's speed is 2.86 m/s relative to the water. The correct approach involves recognizing that swimming upstream means moving against the current, not perpendicular to it. The resultant speed upstream is calculated as 2.86 m/s - 1.33 m/s, resulting in 1.53 m/s. The confusion arose from misapplying vector addition, but the correct interpretation clarified the solution.
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Homework Statement


A swimmer is training in a river. The current flows at 1.33 metres per second and the swimmer's speed is 2.86 metres per second relative to the water. What is the swimmer's speed relative to the shore when swimming upstream? What about downstream?

Homework Equations



Pythagoras.

The Attempt at a Solution



Here's my problem. Because we're looking at vectors, I would normally do the vector sum of both the velocities and use Pythagoras, as both given vectors are perpendicular.


Vcurrent = 1.33 m/s
Vswimmer relative to water = 2.86 m/s

So the resultant vector would be: \sqrt{}(1.332 + 2.862)

Giving 3.15 m/s, however this is wrong, as the answer given is 1.53 m/s upstream.

I'm puzzled as to how this answer was reached.
 
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The swimmer is not swimming across the river.
He is swimming against the current. That how normally swimmers trainned.
Now imagine you running in direction to the east at a speed 1.33 metres per second on a train with 1.33 metres per second speed heading west.
To the man on the platform seeing you not moving, but with respect of the train you are running at 1.33 metres per second in easterly direction.
 
Hi, ulfy01.

Note that "swimming upstream" means swimming in a direction opposite to the current, not perpendicular to the current. So, there is no right triangle here.

[oops: I'm a bit late here, sorry.]
 
I just realized this and made a fool of myself, really. Way to overthink a problem and not read it properly. I'll go hide in a corner now. Thanks azizlwl!
 
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