Switching between parallel and series connections (solar)

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The discussion revolves around optimizing a solar power system for off-grid use, specifically the challenges of switching between parallel and series connections of solar panels based on varying sunlight conditions. Participants explore potential solutions for managing solar charge controllers and relay configurations to improve efficiency during cloudy weather.

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  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • The original poster (OP) describes a need to switch between a main solar charge controller and a smaller spare controller based on sunlight availability, noting that the spare performs better during cloudy conditions.
  • Some participants suggest that the Max Power Point Tracking (MPPT) algorithm of the spare controller may be superior, although this is debated.
  • The OP considers using relays to automate the switching process between panel configurations but expresses concerns about potential reverse voltage and relay failure.
  • One participant questions the OP's understanding of MPPT, suggesting that if they are familiar with it, the need for relay switching might be unnecessary.
  • Another participant proposes that a higher capacity MPPT controller could be a more effective solution, but acknowledges that it may consume more power.
  • The OP highlights the difficulty in evaluating MPPT performance under different conditions before purchase, indicating a lack of available data for comparison.
  • Concerns are raised about the availability of suitable solar charge controllers that meet the OP's requirements, particularly regarding voltage limits and power consumption.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the effectiveness of the current controllers and the necessity of relay systems. There is no consensus on the best approach to optimize the solar setup, and multiple competing ideas remain unresolved.

Contextual Notes

The discussion reveals limitations in the availability of solar charge controllers that meet specific needs, as well as uncertainties regarding the performance of different MPPT algorithms under varying weather conditions.

  • #31
Baluncore said:
I would consider scrounging the high voltage electrolytic capacitors and diodes out of old switching computer power supplies.
I would recommend using Non-Inductive, Metallized FIlm capacitors rather than old Electrolytics.

Electrolytics fail with age by drying out, especially at elevated temperatures. They also have poor high frequency response, which they will see during switching transients.

Metal FIlm do not have that aging problem, they self-heal if they develop an internal short circuit, and the non-inductive ones have decent high frequency response to suppress the switching transients.

Cheers,
Tom
 
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  • #32
Tom.G said:
I would recommend using Non-Inductive, Metallized FIlm capacitors rather than old Electrolytics.
This is not running above 10 kHz in a switching supply. It may only be needed a couple of times each day.
The snubber does not need fast capacitors, it needs to ramp up voltage while current ramps down, and so prevent sparks. There is plenty of time and voltage headroom during the transient.
An electrolytic has distributed inductance and capacitance, a bit like a transmission line. If the inductance of the electrolytic was high, a parallel 10 nF ceramic could be connected in parallel, but that is what the first turn of foil in an electrolytic actually does.

Tom.G said:
Electrolytics fail with age by drying out, especially at elevated temperatures.
The capacitors in this snubber idle with no ripple current, so they will run cold.

I am advocating a cheap experimental solution that will work OK and do the job, rather than an expensive overkill on a military budget. Gold plating the electrodes and polishing electrons is not needed either.
 

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