Symmetric Connection: Does Torsion Vanish?

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The discussion centers on whether a symmetric connection implies that torsion vanishes in the context of differential geometry and general relativity. It explores definitions and implications of torsion in relation to connections, as well as geometric interpretations from a gauge theory perspective.

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  • One participant asserts that a symmetric connection implies zero torsion, referencing Lovelock & Rund's definition of the torsion tensor.
  • Another participant expresses uncertainty about the implication but is confident about the converse, stating that vanishing torsion implies a symmetric connection.
  • A later reply introduces a geometric explanation of vanishing torsion from a gauge perspective, suggesting that torsion relates to the curvature of local spacetime translations in gauge theory approaches to general relativity.

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Participants express differing views on the implications of symmetric connections and torsion, with some agreeing on the definitions while others highlight the converse relationship, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved.

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Participants reference specific definitions and theorems from literature, which may depend on particular assumptions or interpretations of torsion and connections. The discussion does not resolve the implications of these definitions.

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Does a symmetric connection implies that torsion vanishes?
 
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Lovelock & Rund "Tensors, Differential forms and Variational Principles", p 75, sec 3.4, eq. 4.18 defines the torsion tensor (and proves it is a tensor) as

##S^\alpha_{\beta\gamma}=\Gamma^\alpha_{\beta\gamma}-\Gamma^\alpha_{\gamma\beta}##, where ##\Gamma## is the connection.

So yes, symmetric connection implies zero torsion
 
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Cryo said:
Lovelock & Rund "Tensors, Differential forms and Variational Principles", p 75, sec 3.4, eq. 4.18 defines the torsion tensor (and proves it is a tensor) as

##S^\alpha_{\beta\gamma}=\Gamma^\alpha_{\beta\gamma}-\Gamma^\alpha_{\gamma\beta}##, where ##\Gamma## is the connection.

So yes, symmetric connection implies zero torsion
Thanks. I was not sure about it, although I was sure about the converse, i.e., vanishing torsion implies symmetric connection.
 

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