Symmetric group S3 with symbols

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The discussion revolves around determining the orders of elements in the symmetric group S3, which consists of permutations of three symbols. Participants are exploring how to represent these permutations and their corresponding orders using different symbols.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

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  • Some participants express uncertainty about constructing the S3 table using three symbols, contrasting it with their ability to do so with six symbols. Others clarify that the symbols represent elements of a set and discuss the nature of bijections in S3.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants attempting to clarify their understanding of the permutations and their orders. One participant has provided insights into the definition of elements in S3 and the concept of functional composition, while others are still grappling with the representation of these elements.

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There is a mention of merging threads to avoid duplicate questions, indicating a structured approach to the discussion. Participants are encouraged to think about the mappings and their names, suggesting a focus on understanding rather than simply finding answers.

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Homework Statement



Determine the orders of all the elements for the symmetric group on 3 symbols S3.

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The Attempt at a Solution



3 symbols : e,a,b

I don't know how to do the S3 table using just these 3 letters
I can do it using 6 letters (e,s,t,u,v,w) which is going to be like this:

e s t u v w
s e v w t u
t u e s w v
u t w v e s
v w s e u t
w v u t s e
 
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Homework Statement



Determine the orders of all the elements for the symmetric group on 3 symbols S3.

Homework Equations





3. The Attempt at a Solution [/b

3 symbols : e,a,b

I don't know how to do the S3 table using just these 3 letters
I can do it using 6 letters (e,s,t,u,v,w) which is going to be like this:

e s t u v w
s e v w t u
t u e s w v
u t w v e s
v w s e u t
w v u t s e
 
the "symbols" of S3 in this case aren't the elements, they are the elements of the domain of the functions that make up S3.

ok, what S3 is, is the group of permutations of 3 "things". sometimes the things are called "letters", sometimes they are taken to be the elements of the set {1,2,3}. but what an element of S3 IS, is a certain kind of function: namely, a bijection on a 3-element set with itsef. all 3-element sets are pretty much alike (as sets), they just have different "element-names". so it doesn't really matter if you call the element (1 2) in S3 the function:

1→2
2→1
3→3

or:

a→b
b→a
c→c

what we actually mean by (1 2) is:

"the function on a 3-element set that swaps the first and second elements".

there are 6 possible bijections on the 3-element set A = {a,b,c} (you can think of a = 1, b= 2, and c = 3 if you want to, but the properties of 1,2 and 3 as integers aren't relevant here. it's better to think of them as:

a = "element number 1"
b = "element number 2"
c = "element number 3").

one of the 6 possible bijections is:

a→a
b→b
c→c

better known as: the identity function on A: f(x) = x, for all x in A.

there are 3 bijections (permutations) of A that interchange 2 elements, and 2 bijections of A that send all 3 "to something else". see if you can puzzle out what these mappings might be. then give all 6 maps a name.

multiplication on S3 is functional compostion. so if f is in S3, you want to answer the following question:

"what is the smallest positive integer n, for which f°f°...°f(x) = fn(x) = x, for all x in A?"

that integer is the order of f.

for our example f =

a→b
b→a
c→c,

f2 =

a→b→a
b→a→b
c→c→c

so f2(x) = x, for all x in A, that is: f2 = idA, so the order of f is 2, in this case. 1 down, 5 to go.
 
I have merged the two threads. Please do not post the same question more than once.
 

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