Symmetry of Points Across y = x Line?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the symmetry of points (a, b) and (b, a) with respect to the line y = x. Participants explore the mathematical reasoning behind this symmetry, including the relationship between slopes and midpoints.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes showing that the line connecting points (a, b) and (b, a) has a slope of -1, indicating it is perpendicular to the line y = x.
  • Another participant suggests that to demonstrate symmetry, it is necessary to show that the midpoint of the segment connecting the two points lies on the line y = x.
  • There is a reiteration of the need to find the midpoint using the given points to establish the relationship with the line y = x.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the approach to demonstrate the symmetry, focusing on slopes and midpoints, but the discussion does not reach a consensus on the specific steps or methods to be used.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the definitions of midpoint and slope are present but not explicitly stated. The discussion does not resolve how to handle cases where the slope is not a number.

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Show that the points (a, b) and (b, a) are symmetric about the line y = x.

Solution:

Let m = slope

m = (a - b)/(b - a)

I know the slope of y = x is 1.

Must I now show that the line y = x passes through the midpoint? If so, how is this done when the slope is not a number (as in this example)?
 
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Note that $$m=\frac{a-b}{b-a}=-1$$. Therefore, the line connecting $A(a,b)$ and $B(b,a)$ is perpendicular to the graph of $y=x$ (it is known that the product of slopes of perpendicular lines is $-1$). It is left to show that the intersection point of the two lines divides the segment $AB$ in half. You can prove this by showing that the middle of $AB$ lies on $y=x$. Recall that the coordinates of the middle of $AB$ are the arithmetic means of the corresponding coordinates of $A$ and $B$.
 
Evgeny.Makarov said:
Note that $$m=\frac{a-b}{b-a}=-1$$. Therefore, the line connecting $A(a,b)$ and $B(b,a)$ is perpendicular to the graph of $y=x$ (it is known that the product of slopes of perpendicular lines is $-1$). It is left to show that the intersection point of the two lines divides the segment $AB$ in half. You can prove this by showing that the middle of $AB$ lies on $y=x$. Recall that the coordinates of the middle of $AB$ are the arithmetic means of the corresponding coordinates of $A$ and $B$.

Must I find the midpoint using the given points?
 
RTCNTC said:
Must I find the midpoint using the given points?
Yes, as I said,
Evgeny.Makarov said:
You can prove this by showing that the middle of $AB$ lies on $y=x$. Recall that the coordinates of the middle of $AB$ are the arithmetic means of the corresponding coordinates of $A$ and $B$.
 
Evgeny.Makarov said:
Yes, as I said,

Great. Very informative.
 

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