Taking a course in modern algebra

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The discussion revolves around the challenges and expectations of taking a modern algebra course, particularly through Stanford's online EPGY program, while concurrently enrolling in calculus 3. Participants share their thoughts on the difficulty level, workload, and suitability of the course for high school students with a background in linear algebra.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses concern about the difficulty of modern algebra and questions whether it is manageable alongside calculus 3.
  • Another participant suggests that a solid foundation in linear algebra and proof-writing skills would make the course manageable, noting that the EPGY courses are of decent quality.
  • A different participant challenges the definition of "gifted" as used by the EPGY program, questioning the criteria for admission and the implications for the course's difficulty.
  • One participant shares their experience of completing the high school math curriculum and expresses a desire to advance, indicating that the course is intended to be at the undergraduate level with interaction from a Stanford professor.
  • Another participant encourages the original poster to pursue the course, suggesting it will be more challenging than high school AP courses but ultimately rewarding if they keep up with the material.
  • A participant mentions a specific algebra book used in a previous course, indicating its structure and content as a resource for preparation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of opinions on the difficulty and appropriateness of the modern algebra course, with no clear consensus on whether it is too challenging for a high school student. Some believe it is manageable with the right preparation, while others raise concerns about the program's criteria and expectations.

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Participants reference the need for prior knowledge in linear algebra and proof-writing, but there is no agreement on the specific challenges posed by the course or the adequacy of the EPGY program's definition of "gifted." The discussion includes varying perspectives on preparation and resources.

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Hope this is the right place for this...Just wondering what you guys think about modern algebra course. Is it impossibly difficult? Is it fine? Extremely difficult to comprehend? Workload in general? I've taken math until Linear Algebra, and do to some circumstances, I'm looking at taking modern algebra via stanford's online EPGY program. I am also planning to take calc 3 concurrently at a community college (i'm in high school). Will i die in modern algebra?
 
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If you took a good linear algebra course so that you are comfortable writing proofs you should be fine. Of course it can be made easy or hard, but the EPGY courses are at a pretty decent level. Go for it.
 
this is like asking is soup good? will it make me sick? is it hot?

the only clue you give us is the program is titled for "gifted youth". do you know their definition of gifted? is it a certain sat score at the age of 12? or an IQ score? or what? do you meet the criterion? or is it just BS?
 
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^epgy is basically for students who are "advanced". for example, I've finished all the math curriculum at my high school, and I am wanting to move forward. It's hard to find classes at other places (state universities too far, etc) other than community college (even then there might be scheduling conflicts...since I still need to go to other high school classes). But i guess it's supposed to be a regular undergrad course, and you interact with a stanford professor.
 
well why not go for it? it will have a good prof and be good math, and you should enjoy it if you keep up faithfully. and it will probably be more challenging than high school AP courses but that's what you seem to be looking for. good luck.

you might prepare by reading some of the many suggested books recommended here and elsewhere. or the book for the course itself. what is that if i may ask?
 
has anyone tried to read the latest (prelim prep) algebra book on my website? the one with a 4 page outline followed by an 88 page book plus 12 pages of homework and tests?

that makes what i'll call a 100 page algebra book. this is pretty much the one semester course i taught fall 2006.
 

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