Understanding the Mystery of Iron: From Physical Size to Water and Human Body

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The discussion centers on the solubility of metals, particularly iron, and its implications for human health. Participants clarify that solid metals like iron can dissolve in water through oxidation, transforming into ionic forms that are bioavailable. The "iron fish" concept is debated, with consensus that while it may slowly dissolve in water, it does not effectively address iron deficiency. Additionally, the use of elemental iron in products like Total cereal demonstrates how iron can be made bioavailable through chemical reactions in the stomach.

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  • Basic understanding of chemical reactions, particularly oxidation and reduction.
  • Familiarity with the concept of bioavailability in nutrition.
  • Knowledge of dietary sources of iron and their physiological roles.
  • Awareness of the Lucky Iron Fish and its intended use for iron supplementation.
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  • Research the chemical processes of oxidation and reduction in metals.
  • Study the bioavailability of iron and its dietary implications.
  • Explore the effectiveness and safety of the Lucky Iron Fish as a dietary supplement.
  • Investigate the role of elemental iron in fortified foods like Total cereal.
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This discussion is beneficial for chemistry students, nutritionists, healthcare professionals, and anyone interested in the relationship between dietary iron and human health.

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The situation has always confused me since primary school. There are elements/metals which are in the form of physical sizes which we can see and touch such as gold, iron, argent etc. How can these metals pass into water or human body? This is very confusing for me. I have heard that there are lots of gold in the ocean and sea waters. And there is strange case with iron with bind all the three cases, physical size, passing into water and organism body. Physical iron is used to treat iron deficiency when used in water. This seems very strange to me. Would you explain these cases?

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Your post is half nonsensical, but I bet what you mean is "how do elements that are in the form of solids become soluble?" - if so, they are typically oxidized (or reduced) to ionic forms, these are more or less easy to dissolve.
 
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Your post is half nonsensical, but I bet what you mean is "how do elements that are in the form of solids become soluble?" - if so, they are typically oxidized (or reduced) to ionic forms, these are more or less easy to dissolve.

Yes, I don't know correct words. But when putting an iron into water how does it instantly become that form? Are that iron and what we take into our body the same? That metal fish solves the iron deficiancy problem.

Thank you.
 
Same element in different forms. No, iron fish doesn't help, although the idea - that it will slowly dissolve in water - is correct. It is not an instant process, it is quite slow and requires a chemical reaction between iron (in metallic form), water and air oxygen.
 
Borek said:
Same element in different forms. No, iron fish doesn't help, although the idea - that it will slowly dissolve in water - is correct. It is not an instant process, it is quite slow and requires a chemical reaction between iron (in metallic form), water and air oxygen.

Is it all about chemistry? Does introductory chemistry books explain this? What do you mean by "No, iron fish doesn't help?" To help what? To iron deficiancy?

Thank you.
 
Yes, it is all about chemistry, yes, any introductory textbook should give you enough info, yes, iron fish doesn't help with iron deficiency.
 
Yes, I saw the wiki article, but after skimming it I was under impression the only reputable source cited (The American Journal of Clinical Nutrition) doesn't confirm it works - which I took to mean "at best the jury is still out".
 
Total cereal (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Total_(breakfast_cereal)) uses elemental iron to meet the RDA criterion for dietary iron. Iron microparticles are pressed into the wheat flakes and are oxidized/dissolved in the acidic environment of the stomach, at which point the iron becomes bioavailable. I remember an old experiment in high school, soaking Total in water and using a magnet to collect the iron particles.
 

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