Taking third-year physics courses during senior year

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The discussion centers around the challenges faced by an undergraduate student who is a double major in Physics and English Literature, specifically regarding the timing of taking core physics courses and the implications for applying to graduate programs in physics. The scope includes academic planning, graduate school application strategies, and the importance of core physics knowledge.

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  • The original poster expresses concern about being behind in core physics courses and how this may affect their preparedness for graduate school.
  • Some participants suggest that skipping core courses would be unwise and emphasize the importance of completing them.
  • There is a discussion about whether postponing graduate school applications for a year would negatively impact the original poster's application.
  • One participant notes that while core courses are essential, additional courses in specialized areas are often considered optional at the undergraduate level.
  • The original poster mentions plans to take the GRE and expresses uncertainty about fitting in optics coursework.
  • Research experience is highlighted as a significant factor for graduate school applications, with questions raised about the original poster's research opportunities.

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Participants generally agree on the importance of core physics courses for graduate school applications, but there is no consensus on the impact of delaying applications or the necessity of additional specialized courses.

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The discussion reflects uncertainties regarding the timing of graduate school applications, the adequacy of the original poster's preparation, and the role of research experience in strengthening applications.

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Undergraduate students in physics or related fields considering graduate school, particularly those facing scheduling conflicts with core courses.

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Hi,

I'm an undergraduate double-major, Physics and English literature, going into my senior year. I chose/declared both of my majors during sophomore year, having entered school with a vague intention of majoring in linguistics (which soon dissipated). As such, I'm about a 'year behind' in terms of core physics courses--i.e., I'll be taking E&M I, Thermal I, Mechanics I, & Adv. Quantum I in the fall of my senior year, and will only be able to take the second-semester portion of two out of these four. Upper level courses I'd like to take--astrophysics, general relativity, intro to nuclear & particle physics--are pretty much out of the question.

I will be able to graduate with a B.S. in physics, provided I pass all of my courses, at the end of senior year, but I feel like I will still be very shallowly-prepared for a physics graduate program. I'm not sure when I would even apply, since I certainly won't be taking the GRE until I've completed the aforementioned third-year courses.

I'm thinking of doing an extra semester of undergraduate courses after I graduate, but I'm not sure how that would look on an application. I was wondering if anyone had any advice for someone in my situation, looking to be admitted into a physics graduate program.
 
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What is your alternative? Skipping these courses? That sounds unwise.
 
I don't really see an alternative. I guess I was wondering whether postponing applying to graduate school for a year after I receive my undegrad degree would negatively impact my application.
 
Classical mechanics, E&M, quantum mechanics, and thermo / stat mech are the core curriculum that grad schools expect. Stuff like nuclear, particle, solid state, etc. are basically optional at undergraduate level. If you know what field you want to do in grad school, then it makes sense to try to work a course on it into your schedule. Otherwise I wouldn't stress out over it. Just do as well as you can in the core stuff.

Have you looked at the sample exam on the GRE web site? That will give you an idea of the level of knowledge you need for it.

Do you have or will you get any research experience?
 
I just looked at the sample exam--it doesn't look too terrible. I think I should be ready for it by next spring (though I'm not sure where I'll pick up optics. E&M maybe?).

I will hopefully do some research this summer, but won't get another chance until spring of my senior year, which is why I might not want to begin applying to schools until after I graduate.
 

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