Tall people are happier, better educated

[DBTS]

I found this part funny:

According to Deaton's analysis, the result is linked to education and income. The study found that taller people tend to have more education, and thus higher income levels, than shorter people.

I wonder where he arrived at such a conclusion given his analysis? On average being "taller" is a little more rare in the human populous, so there is more average height above 5'9" and below 6'0" than people taller than 6ft.
Of course given that you are comparing two classes, the one with the fewest will seem good in regards to those of the larger group but that is not the case. Someone correct me if I am wrong...

Does that mean you're 5'11" or so ?

Just when the spinal cored extends, so I have to put it in between. Or is this some type of joke? I suck at nuances...

 

[nismaratwork]

What is funny about the article is that the guy is an economist. Not a scientist, not an academecian. I wonder if the only thing this guy has going for him is height?

It sure as hell isn't his gifted prose, I'll tell you that much!

 

[FlexGunship]

Does anyone here think that there is any truth to his claim that "tall people are better educated"?

Makes sense. They're closer to the sun.

 

[FlexGunship]

I am 5'10" and a few centimeters tall...

Obviously not tall enough to know that's 5'11"

 

[nismaratwork]

Makes sense. They're closer to the sun.

I'm almost positive that you're thinking of trees in a rainforest competing for sunlight.

 

[qspeechc]

I'm sorry the link isn't working for me.

The study found that taller people tend to have more education, and thus higher income levels, than shorter people.

Did the study say why taller people tend to have more education?

 

[Evo]

Did the study say why taller people tend to have more education?

No, apparently it was from a Gallup poll.

The article is still here. http://www.time.com/time/business/article/0,8599,1913256,00.html

The papper can be obtained here. http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1422968

 

[Ivan Seeking]

Did the study say why taller people tend to have more education?

They have a better view of the chalkboard?

 

[Lisa!]

They have a better view of the chalkboard?

 

[drizzle]

They have a better view of the chalkboard?

No, they can cheat easily. You know, glancing from one paper to another.

 

[nismaratwork]

No, they can cheat easily. You know, glancing from one paper to another.

Pfft... as if tall people would deign to cheat from short people!

 

[drizzle]

Pfft... as if tall people would deign to cheat from short people!

Okay then, explain why do I note that tall people have a slight hunchbacked.

 

[nismaratwork]

Okay then, explain why do I note that tall people have a slight hunchbacked.

Errr... no reason. We slouch to make short people feel like they have a reason to live! Certainly we don't all get together and practice neck-stretches and eyeball maneuvers...

 

[turbo]

Okay then, explain why do I note that tall people have a slight hunchbacked.

Well, if you attend college on a basketball scholarship, and if you need an edge...

 

[nismaratwork]

إقرأ

That's good advice... so tall people just... إقرأ over more shoulders than most!

 

[drizzle]

إقرأ

That's good advice... so tall people just... يقرأون over more shoulders than most!

Correction's mine.

 

[DBTS]

Actually midgets have the advantage more-so than tall people. I remember a guy who was about 4'9" in my class looking at my paper while we were taking an exam, and the professor obviously saw him glancing over because I gave the proff. the look, but the professor did not do anything. We were both, the midget and I, sitting in front of the room as well, so the professor knew what was happening.

 

[nismaratwork]

Correction's mine.

Eep, that'll show me for trying to be cute. Thanks for the quick lesson, I appreciate it!

 

[drizzle]

Eep, that'll show me for trying to be cute. Thanks for the quick lesson, I appreciate it!

Awww! That made me blush.

 

[Klockan3]

What is wrong with the people posting in this thread, why couldn't it be that tall people actually are better educated overall? What is so preposterous about that? To me it seems to go well with the notion that taller people are overall treated more respectfully simply for being taller. In terms of education it would mean that you get a better response from your teachers and thus more likely to end up liking the subjects which in turn makes you prone to take your education further.

Right now you sound like the bunch of people who think that commercials are a waste of money, stating things like "how many do you know anyone who bought something simply because of a commercial?".

A poll might not be the most exact way to measure things but polls are still very good as long as you take into account peoples tendencies to tamper with their answers. For example, is there any reason to believe that on average happy people overestimate their length by 1 inch while unhappy people underestimates their height by the same amount? You can likely find such tendencies, but that they would add up to over an inch is unlikely.

 

[FlexGunship]

...average happy people overestimate their length by 1 inch...

Firstly, I am not average. Secondly, I totally didn't overestimate, I swear... I measured. Thirdly, I wasn't fully "happy" (as you say) at the time... soooooo...

 

[Klockan3]

Firstly, I am not average. Secondly, I totally didn't overestimate, I swear... I measured. Thirdly, I wasn't fully "happy" (as you say) at the time... soooooo...

This isn't about you flexing your gunship

 

[FlexGunship]

This isn't about you flexing your gunship

No need to flex. My gunship is an MH-60L Direct Action Penetrator.

...game, set, match. Flex.EDIT: It occurred to me that someone might consider that lewd. I swear to you, that is the exact name of that vehicle.

 

[nismaratwork]

What is wrong with the people posting in this thread, why couldn't it be that tall people actually are better educated overall? What is so preposterous about that?[1] To me it seems to go well with the notion that taller people are overall treated more respectfully simply for being taller. In terms of education it would mean that you get a better response from your teachers and thus more likely to end up liking the subjects which in turn makes you prone to take your education further.
[2]
Right now you sound like the bunch of idiots[3] who thinks that commercials are a waste of money, stating things like "how many do you know anyone who bought something simply because of a commercial?".

A poll might not be the most exact way to measure things but polls are still very good as long as you take into account peoples tendencies to tamper with their answers.[4]For example, is there any reason to believe that on average happy people overestimate their length by 1 inch while unhappy people underestimates their height by the same amount?[5] You can likely find such tendencies, but that they would add up to over an inch is unlikely.

The following are responses to the bolded portion that precedes them.

#1: The premise? Your delivery? The fact that we HAVE discussed that already...

#2: On average girls are taller in the formative stages you describe, so they should be the primary benefactors of being tall in school. I don't see it. I think your premise is a sound logical construction that, like an elegantly wrong theory, has no physical reality.

#3: Way to win hearts and minds... I always like to lead with, "idiot" when I'm trying to have a discussion with others.

#4: Right... they CAN be useful, and you have to keep in mind and X factor that isn't easy to quantify. This is why polls are the product of statistics and art, but studies are the product of science. It's on you to show how they ARE useful here, when compared to the views of others. So far, you've just managed to be caustic.

#5: Don't cross the streams! In much the same way that you've injected "length" for height, then transposed them later, you can't simply reverse the premise and suppose that happiness causes a psychosomatic delusion. If you're more of a math guy, think quaternions.

Closing: Maybe if you construct a functional thesis, support it, and do so without calling anyone an idiot, you'll be practically acting 'all grown up..'.

 

[Klockan3]

#1: The premise? Your delivery? The fact that we HAVE discussed that already...

I read the entire thread and the most constructive I could find was things that could be summed up with "Why would education correlate with length?? Obviously dumb study".

#2: On average girls are taller in the formative stages you describe, so they should be the primary benefactors of being tall in school. I don't see it. I think your premise is a sound logical construction that, like an elegantly wrong theory, has no physical reality.

Don't they get better grades and in larger numbers continue on to higher education? What more do you need? And obviously due to this poll I got more data to back my "theory" up than you got data to show that it isn't correlating. Public consensus do not mean anything at all, as far as this thread goes all data showed points towards this. If you disagree perform your own study to try to show that it isn't true.

#3: Way to win hearts and minds... I always like to lead with, "idiot" when I'm trying to have a discussion with others.

It is great if you want a discussion, it is bad if you want to convince people. And frankly when people dismiss something just because it doesn't cater to what they feel is the truth without having any evidence at all to back them up then they are idiots. Of course you can't say anything for sure based on a one time poll but it says way more than anyones personal experience.

It's on you to show how they ARE useful here, when compared to the views of others.

Science is there to find the truth, no questions are bad. Correlation between length and education level is interesting since it obviously goes against peoples intuition.

#5: Don't cross the streams! In much the same way that you've injected "length" for height, then transposed them later, you can't simply reverse the premise and suppose that happiness causes a psychosomatic delusion. If you're more of a math guy, think quaternions.

It is an important factor actually since you go by inches. 1 inch is fairly large so if you are in between two inches and have to round then you might round differently depending on how you feel.

Closing: Maybe if you construct a functional thesis, support it, and do so without calling anyone an idiot, you'll be practically acting 'all grown up..'.

Just like everyone else in this thread you mean.

 

[nismaratwork]

I read the entire thread and the most constructive I could find was things that could be summed up with "Why would education correlate with length?? Obviously dumb study".

Don't they get better grades and in larger numbers continue on to higher education? What more do you need? And obviously due to this poll I got more data to back my "theory" up than you got data to show that it isn't correlating.

It is great if you want a discussion, it is bad if you want to convince people.

Science is there to find the truth, no questions are bad. Correlation between length and education level is interesting since it obviously goes against peoples intuition.

It is an important factor actually since you go by inches. 1 inch is fairly large so if you are in between two inches and have to round then you might round differently depending on how you feel.

Just like everyone else in this thread you mean.

You really don't get the whole, "length vs. height" issue... do you? Beyond that your responses have been so selective or obtuse as to be meaningless.

 

[drizzle]

I thought I was the shortest among those who posted here... Seems like someone else is shorter than me. WAAAY SHORTER.

 

[Klockan3]

You really don't get the whole, "length vs. height" issue... do you? Beyond that your responses have been so selective or obtuse as to be meaningless.

Height and length are interchangeable when you talk about humans. If I am wrong then please enlighten me. Edit: Just because one is more common among laymen than the other do not mean that the other is wrong.

 

[nismaratwork]

Height and length are interchangeable when you talk about humans. If I am wrong then please enlighten me. Edit: Just because one is more common among laymen than the other do not mean that the other is wrong.

No. No they're not. Length for instance specifically refers to linear measurements of fixed objects. Length is also a specific measurement of horses... from nose to tail. In every example I can find, length is NOT interchangeable with height.

An example:

Height:
•the vertical dimension of extension; distance from the base of something to the top
•acme: the highest level or degree attainable; the highest stage of development; "his landscapes were deemed the acme of beauty"; "the artist's gifts are at their acme"; "at the height of her career"; "the peak of perfection"; "summer was at its peak"; "... ...
•stature: (of a standing person) the distance from head to foot
•altitude: elevation especially above sea level or above the Earth's surface; "the altitude gave her a headache"

Whereas the same cannot be said of

Length:
•the linear extent in space from one end to the other; the longest dimension of something that is fixed in place; "the length of the table was 5 feet"
•duration: continuance in time; "the ceremony was of short duration"; "he complained about the length of time required"
•the property of being the extent of something from beginning to end; "the editor limited the length of my article to 500 words"
•distance: size of the gap between two places; "the distance from New York to Chicago"; "he determined the length of the shortest line segment joining the two points"
•a section of something that is long and narrow; "a length of timber"; "a length of tubing"

I've added the bold for emphasis. You can't claim some obscure usage among non "layman" (the laity of what, I don't know in General Discussion) and then hope that nobody calls you on it.

 

[DanP]

Must be true some economist at Princeton says so. He also says "income is the thing".



http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/20090729/us_time/08599191325600

I hate these articles that do not link to the "research" so we can judge just how well or poorly it was done.

It;s a known psychological effect that ppl with some phenotypes (generally considered good looking, and height is a part of this) are perceived by others as more competent, more righteous and so on. As a result it wouldn't surprise me that the social perception of others on you will have such effects.

We are not born equal. This is the biggest lie told in the western world ever, which we should quit telling to our youth. Some of us are simply born with better phenotypes, and in better positioned social clans.