Tan(x) + sec(x) = sqrt(3), find x

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The discussion revolves around the equation tan x + sec x = √3, with the goal of finding x within the interval [0, 2π]. Participants are exploring trigonometric identities and transformations related to this equation.

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  • Participants discuss various transformations of the original equation, including manipulating it into forms involving sine and cosine. There are questions about the steps taken to derive certain expressions and the implications of squaring both sides of the equation.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants providing alternative methods and questioning the validity of certain steps. Some participants express confusion over missing solutions and the introduction of extraneous solutions due to squaring. There is no explicit consensus on the correct approach or final solution yet.

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Participants note the importance of showing all work to clarify reasoning and avoid misunderstandings. The discussion highlights the potential for introducing extraneous solutions when manipulating equations, particularly when squaring both sides.

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Homework Statement



[tex]tan x + sec x=\sqrt{3}[/tex]
Find x in 0 to 2*pi




The Attempt at a Solution


[tex]\frac{sin x+1}{cos x}=\sqrt{3}[/tex]


[tex]\sqrt{3}cos x - sin x=1[/tex]


[tex]2 sin (x - \frac{\pi}{3})=1[/tex]


[tex]x - \frac{\pi}{3}=n\pi + (-1)^{n}\frac{\pi}{6}[/tex]

My problem is that the the solution x=pi/6 is missing fom my general solution. Why?
 
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Hi ritwik06! :smile:
ritwik06 said:
[tex]\sqrt{3}cos x - sin x=1[/tex]

[tex]2 sin (x - \frac{\pi}{3})=1[/tex]

Nooo … [tex]\ \ 2\,sin (\frac{\pi}{3}\ -\ x)\ =\ 1[/tex] :smile:

and whyever is there a (-1)n in your:
[tex]x - \frac{\pi}{3}=n\pi + (-1)^{n}\frac{\pi}{6}[/tex]
 


ritwik06 said:

Homework Statement



[tex]tan x + sec x=\sqrt{3}[/tex]
Find x in 0 to 2*pi




The Attempt at a Solution


[tex]\frac{sin x+1}{cos x}=\sqrt{3}[/tex]


[tex]\sqrt{3}cos x - sin x=1[/tex]


[tex]2 sin (x - \frac{\pi}{3})=1[/tex]


[tex]x - \frac{\pi}{3}=n\pi + (-1)^{n}\frac{\pi}{6}[/tex]

My problem is that the the solution x=pi/6 is missing fom my general solution. Why?
It's hard to tell why if you don't show all of your work!

How did you get from
[tex]\sqrt{3}cos x - sin x=1[/tex]
to
[tex]2 sin (x - \frac{\pi}{3})=1[/tex]?
I would have done this a completely different way:
From
[tex]\frac{sin x+1}{cos x}=\sqrt{3}[/tex]
[tex]sin x+ 1= \sqrt{3} cos x[/tex]
Now square both sides:
[tex](sin x+ 1)^2= sin^2 x+ 2sin x+ 1= 3 cos^2x= 3(1- sin^2 x)[/itex]<br /> so that<br /> [tex]4sin^2 x + 2sin x- 2=0[/tex]<br /> or<br /> [tex]2 sin^2 x+ sin x- 2= (2 sin x- 1)(sin x+ 1)= 0.<br /> That has the two roots sin x= 1/2 and sin x= -1.<br /> <br /> If sin x= 1/2, then [itex]x= \pi/6[/itex] or [itex]5\pi/6[/itex] and if sin x= -1, then [itex]x= 3\pi/2[/itex].<br /> <br /> Since we squared, we may have introduced a new solution so we had better check in the original equation. If [itex]x= \pi/6[/itex], then [itex]tan x= sin x/cos x= \sqrt{3}/3[/itex] and [itex]sec x= 1/cos x= 2\sqrt{3}/3. Yes, those add to [itex]\sqrt{3}! If [itex]x= 5\pi/6[/itex] then [itex]tan x= sin x/cos x= -\sqrt{3}{3}[/itex], [itex]sec x= 1/cos x= -2\sqrt{3}/3[/itex] and those add to [itex]-\sqrt{3}[/itex], not [itex]\sqrt{3}[/itex]. If [itex]x= 3\pi/2[/itex], cos x does not exist and neither tan x nor sec x exists. The ONLY solution to the equation between 0 and [itex]2\pi[/itex] is [itex]x= \pi/6[/itex].[/itex][/itex][/tex][/tex]
 


HallsofIvy said:
It's hard to tell why if you don't show all of your work!

How did you get from
[tex]\sqrt{3}cos x - sin x=1[/tex]
to
[tex]2 sin (x - \frac{\pi}{3})=1[/tex]?
I would have done this a completely different way:
From
[tex]\frac{sin x+1}{cos x}=\sqrt{3}[/tex]
[tex]sin x+ 1= \sqrt{3} cos x[/tex]
Now square both sides:
[tex](sin x+ 1)^2= sin^2 x+ 2sin x+ 1= 3 cos^2x= 3(1- sin^2 x)[/itex]<br /> so that<br /> [tex]4sin^2 x + 2sin x- 2=0[/tex]<br /> or<br /> [tex]2 sin^2 x+ sin x- 2= (2 sin x- 1)(sin x+ 1)= 0.<br /> That has the two roots sin x= 1/2 and sin x= -1.<br /> <br /> If sin x= 1/2, then [itex]x= \pi/6[/itex] or [itex]5\pi/6[/itex] and if sin x= -1, then [itex]x= 3\pi/2[/itex].<br /> <br /> Since we squared, we may have introduced a new solution so we had better check in the original equation. If [itex]x= \pi/6[/itex], then [itex]tan x= sin x/cos x= \sqrt{3}/3[/itex] and [itex]sec x= 1/cos x= 2\sqrt{3}/3. Yes, those add to [itex]\sqrt{3}! If [itex]x= 5\pi/6[/itex] then [itex]tan x= sin x/cos x= -\sqrt{3}{3}[/itex], [itex]sec x= 1/cos x= -2\sqrt{3}/3[/itex] and those add to [itex]-\sqrt{3}[/itex], not [itex]\sqrt{3}[/itex]. If [itex]x= 3\pi/2[/itex], cos x does not exist and neither tan x nor sec x exists. The ONLY solution to the equation between 0 and [itex]2\pi[/itex] is [itex]x= \pi/6[/itex].[/itex][/itex][/tex][/tex]
[tex][tex][itex][itex] Thats obvious. But I used the polar format there...<br /> [tex] \sqrt{3}cos x - sin x=1[/tex]<br /> <br /> <br /> Suppose:<br /> f(x)=a cos x+ b sin x<br /> let <br /> a =r sin y <br /> b =r cos y<br /> [tex]r=\sqrt{a^{2}+b^{2}}[/tex] <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> [tex]y=tan^{-1}\frac{x}{y}[/tex]<br /> then f(x)=r sin(x+y) <br /> I used this. And I am wondering what i did wrong?[/itex][/itex][/tex][/tex]
 

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