What Other Point(s) Have the Same Tangent Plane?

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The discussion focuses on finding the equation for the tangent plane to the surface defined by z^2 = x^2 + 2y^2 at the point P = (1,2,3). The derivatives are calculated, leading to the tangent plane equation 6z = 2x + 8y. To identify other points on the surface with the same tangent plane, it is suggested to determine which points lie on that plane and analyze their normal vectors. The discussion also clarifies why only the positive square root is used for z at the specified point. Overall, the tangent plane's properties and the surface's gradient are key to solving the problem.
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[SOLVED] Tangent plane to surface

Homework Statement



Find an equation for the tangent plane to the surface z^2 = x^2 + 2y^2 at the point P = (1,2,3). Which other points on the surface have the same tangent plane?

2. The attempt at a solution

I find the derivatives:

fx = x/(2*sqrt(x^2 + 2y^2))
fy = 2y/(2*sqrt(x^2 + 2y^2))

The plane is given by:

z - f(1,2,3) = fx(1,2,3)(x-1) + fy(1,2,3)(y-2)

6z = 2x + 8y

So then, which other points on the surface have the same tangent plane?

I also have another question: Why does it suffice to write z = sqrt(x^2 + sy^2) instead of z = (+/-)sqrt(x^2 + sy^2) ?
 
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f_y\ne \frac{2y}{2\sqrt{x^2+ 2y^2}}[/itex]<br /> I suspect you forgot the &quot;2&quot; multiplying y<sup>2</sup>.<br /> <br /> You are given that the point in question is (1, 2, 3). z= 3 which is positive. That&#039;s why you can use z= \sqrt{x^2+ 2y^2} for that point. Of course, other points, having the same tangent plane, might have z negative. In order to determine what other points on the surface have the same tangent plane, you should first determine what other points on the surface are also on that plane. Once you have those, then look at the normal vectors.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> By the way, for those of us who don&#039;t like square roots, it is simpler to write F(x,y,z)= x<sup>2</sup>+ 2y<sup>2</sup>- z<sup>2</sup>= 0, so the surface is a &quot;level surface&quot; for F. It&#039;s gradient, \nabla F= 2x\vec{i}+ 4y\vec{j}- 2z\vec{k} is perpendicular to that surface. In particular, \nabla F(1,2,3)= 2\vec{i}+ 8\vec{j}- 6\vec{k} gives exactly the same tangent plane.<br /> <br /> Finally, please don&#039;t use &quot;f<sub>x</sub>&quot;, &quot;f<sub>y</sub>&quot;, etc. without first telling us <b>what</b> f is! I was able to guess that f(x,y)= z= \sqrt{x^2+ 2y^2} but you should have said that.
 
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