Tangential and centripetal acceleration problem

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The problem involves a windmill that starts from rest and rotates with a constant angular acceleration. The question focuses on determining the time at which the magnitude of the tangential acceleration of a blade's tip equals the magnitude of the centripetal acceleration at that point.

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  • Participants discuss the need for the radius to calculate both tangential and centripetal acceleration. Some suggest that the radius may not be necessary for the solution, while others propose expressing the relationship between tangential and centripetal acceleration symbolically.

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Participants are actively exploring the relationships between angular acceleration, tangential acceleration, and centripetal acceleration. There is a focus on deriving expressions and understanding how variables interact, with some guidance provided on how to approach the problem without needing the radius explicitly.

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There is an ongoing discussion about the conversion of angular acceleration to tangential acceleration and the implications of constant angular acceleration on the angular speed over time.

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A windmill starts from rest and rotates with a constant angular acceleration of 0.25 rad/s2. How many seconds after starting will the magnitude of the tangential acceleration of the tip of a blade equal the magnitude of the centripetal acceleration at the same point?

I don't exactly know where to start with this problem. Wouldnt I need the radius to solve for the tangential acceleration as well as the centripetal acceleration?
 
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It might work out without r. Give it a try! I suggest you begin with putting that condition into symbols:
tangential acceleration = centripetal acceleration
rα = v²/r (pardon the poor alpha character after the first r)
Fill in the details and see if the r's cancel out!
 
r_swayze said:
A windmill starts from rest and rotates with a constant angular acceleration of 0.25 rad/s2. How many seconds after starting will the magnitude of the tangential acceleration of the tip of a blade equal the magnitude of the centripetal acceleration at the same point?

I don't exactly know where to start with this problem. Wouldnt I need the radius to solve for the tangential acceleration as well as the centripetal acceleration?
No. You have to work it out to see why.

What is the tangential acceleration (convert angular acceleration to tangential acceleration - use r for the radius).

Now, write out the expression for centripetal acceleration of a mass located at the tip in terms of angular speed.

At what speed does the centripetal acceleration equal the tangential acceleration?

AM
 
I don't see how the r's can cancel out with ra = v^2/r

And how can I covert angular acceleration to tangential acceleration?
 
It was rα = v²/r where the 2nd character is an alpha, angular acceleration.
No r's cancel at this point, but you are given that α = .25 and of course v = rω.
Since it is constant angular acceleration, you can also get a value for ω as a function of time . . . just keep working on that equation with these details and see what happens.
 

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