Tarzan's River Crossing Dilemma: Can He Swing Across Safely?

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The problem involves Tarzan attempting to swing across a river using a vine, with specific parameters including his mass, the length of the vine, and his speed at the bottom of the swing. The breaking strength of the vine is also a critical factor in determining whether he can safely cross.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the application of centripetal force in the context of pendulum motion, questioning the appropriateness of the formulas used. There is an exploration of the net forces acting on Tarzan, including tension and gravitational force.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on how to approach the problem, specifically regarding the calculation of tension in the vine and the forces involved. Multiple interpretations of the forces at play are being explored, but there is no explicit consensus on the final outcome.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating through the complexities of the problem, including the distinction between centripetal force and the forces acting on a pendulum. There is also a note of uncertainty regarding the initial calculations and assumptions made about weight and tension.

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Homework Statement


"Tarzan (m=85kg) tries to cross a river by swinging from a 10.0m long vine. His speed at the bottom of the swing, just as he clears the water, is 8.0 m/s. Tarzan doesn't know that the vine has a breaking strength of 1.0 x 10^3 N Does he make it safely across the river? Justify your answer."


Homework Equations


F_{c}=\frac{mv_{t}^2}{r}


The Attempt at a Solution


I attempted to substitute in the variables as such:
F_{c}=\frac{85kg*\left(8.0\frac{m}{s}\right)^2}{10.0m}
I got 544N, which is not the answer(1.37x10^3N is his 'weight' at this point, greater than the rope). Am I missing something obvious?
 
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You do not have the right formula. You are thinking of Centripetal Force, this is Pendulum Motion.
 
mikesown said:

Homework Statement


"Tarzan (m=85kg) tries to cross a river by swinging from a 10.0m long vine. His speed at the bottom of the swing, just as he clears the water, is 8.0 m/s. Tarzan doesn't know that the vine has a breaking strength of 1.0 x 10^3 N Does he make it safely across the river? Justify your answer."


Homework Equations


F_{c}=\frac{mv_{t}^2}{r}


The Attempt at a Solution


I attempted to substitute in the variables as such:
F_{c}=\frac{85kg*\left(8.0\frac{m}{s}\right)^2}{10.0m}
I got 544N, which is not the answer(1.37x10^3N is his 'weight' at this point, greater than the rope). Am I missing something obvious?
You have correctly identified the centripetal force as 544N. The centripetal force is the net force acting up toward the center of the circle. The net force is a combination of the tension force up and his weight (not his 'weight' as you have described...his weight is m*g) down. Solve for T. Does the rope break?
 
PhanthomJay said:
The net force is a combination of the tension force up and his weight

This is correct. Add 544N to (85 x 9.8) and you get 1377N
 
Is it too late to pretend I haven't said anything? eep my bad, just ignore anything i say
 

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