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The discussion revolves around performing a Taylor expansion of the energy levels derived from Dirac's equation with a Coulomb potential, specifically focusing on the terms involving \((\alpha Z/n)^2\). Participants are exploring various approaches to simplify the derivatives and the expressions involved.

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  • The original poster attempts to derive the Taylor expansion but finds the derivatives complex and suggests there may be alternative methods. Some participants propose using fewer derivatives and evaluating at \(\alpha Z = 0\) to simplify the process. Others suggest expanding specific terms, such as \(\sqrt{(j+1/2)^2 - (\alpha Z)^2}\), to simplify the denominator and retain important second-order terms in the expansion.

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Participants are actively sharing different methods and insights, with some providing guidance on retaining specific terms in the Taylor series to achieve agreement with expected results. There is an ongoing exploration of the implications of these expansions, and while some discrepancies in results are noted, productive suggestions are being exchanged.

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Participants are navigating the complexity of the Taylor expansion process and the implications of various assumptions, such as the treatment of \((\alpha Z/n)\) terms and the significance of specific orders in the expansion. There is an acknowledgment of potential errors in earlier attempts and the need for careful handling of terms in the series.

darkshadow28
I have to do a Taylor expansion of the energy levels of Dirac's equation with a coulombian potential in orders of (αZ/n)^2 , but the derivatives I get are just too large, I guess there is another approach maybe?
This is the expression of the energy levels
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And i know it has to end like this:
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You only need two derivatives. The second one will be ugly but you evaluate it at ##\alpha Z=0##, which means you can skip many terms as soon as you know that appears as factor.
 
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A simpler way is to first expand ## \sqrt{(j+1/2)^2-(\alpha Z)^2} ## as a Taylor series. It greatly simplifies the denominator. Upon squaring the term in brackets ##[ \, ] ##, I get ## n^2(1-\frac{(\alpha Z)^2}{n(j+1/2)} +...) ##. This makes ##1/ [1+(\frac{\alpha Z}{n})^2(1-\frac{(\alpha Z)^2}{n(j+1/2)} )]^{1/2}-1 ##. With this very last Taylor expansion with a ## f(x)=\sqrt{1+x} ##, it is important to also keep the second order term of the ## (\frac{\alpha Z}{n})^2 ## factor. I almost got complete agreement with the result you posted, but I got a 1/4 instead of 3/4 in the fourth order term. ## \\ ## Editing: One additional item, and I think I got their result: In taking the final result in the form ## f(x)=\frac{1}{1+x}=1-x+x^2-x^3+ ... ##, it is important to retain the ## x^2 ## term of the ## \frac{1}{2} (\frac{ \alpha Z}{n})^2 ## term. (Originally, I tried to use ## \frac{1}{1+x} \approx 1-x ##. That did not supply sufficient accuracy.) This will then give the result you provided with the 3/4.
 
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Charles Link said:
A simpler way is to first expand ## \sqrt{(j+1/2)^2-(\alpha Z)^2} ## as a Taylor series. It greatly simplifies the denominator. Upon squaring the term in brackets ##[ \, ] ##, I get ## n^2(1-\frac{(\alpha Z)^2}{n(j+1/2)} +...) ##. This makes ##1/ [1+(\frac{\alpha Z}{n})^2(1-\frac{(\alpha Z)^2}{n(j+1/2)} )]^{1/2}-1 ##. With this very last Taylor expansion with a ## f(x)=\sqrt{1+x} ##, it is important to also keep the second order term of the ## (\frac{\alpha Z}{n})^2 ## factor. I almost got complete agreement with the result you posted, but I got a 1/4 instead of 3/4 in the fourth order term. ## \\ ## Editing: One additional item, and I think I got their result: In taking the final result in the form ## f(x)=\frac{1}{1+x}=1-x+x^2-x^3+ ... ##, it is important to retain the ## x^2 ## term of the ## \frac{1}{2} (\frac{ \alpha Z}{n})^2 ## term. This will then give the result you provided with the 3/4.
Thanks, if I try doing from ## n^2(1-\frac{(\alpha Z)^2}{n(j+1/2)} +...) ## i get the correct terms, but I'm getting an extra n(j+1/2) in the Taylor series of the square root.
 
In your first Taylor series, you need to write ## (j+1/2) \sqrt{1-(\frac{\alpha Z}{j+1/2})^2}=(j+1/2)(1-\frac{1}{2} \frac{(\alpha Z)^2}{(j+1/2)^2}+...) ##. The ## j+1/2 ## out front gets canceled by the ## -(j+1/2) ## in the denominator. And next, factor out an ## n^2 ## before you square the result.
 
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