Teaching physics in a community college

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the experiences and challenges of teaching physics at community colleges, particularly focusing on job availability, competitiveness, and work-life balance. Participants share insights based on their backgrounds in academia and tutoring, exploring the nuances of securing teaching positions in this educational setting.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant, a new PhD, expresses interest in teaching at community colleges, noting the potential rewards and pay in certain regions, particularly California.
  • Another participant, who has experience as a tutor, suggests that full-time positions are highly competitive and often scarce, with many applicants vying for limited openings.
  • Concerns are raised about the prevalence of part-time, temporary positions that lack benefits, which may limit opportunities for full-time employment.
  • A participant mentions specific job openings, such as at Irvine Valley College, but highlights the requirement for prior teaching experience, which they lack.
  • There is a suggestion to leverage teaching assistant (TA) duties as relevant experience when applying for teaching positions.
  • Another participant emphasizes the workload associated with teaching multiple classes, including preparation, grading, and office hours, which may impact work-life balance.
  • Some participants note that faculty members with master's degrees are also present, raising questions about the competitiveness of applicants with PhDs versus those with master's degrees.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the competitive nature of teaching positions at community colleges and the challenges associated with securing full-time roles. However, there are differing views on the relevance of advanced degrees in the hiring process and the feasibility of managing the workload involved in teaching multiple classes.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention specific job requirements and experiences that may not be universally applicable, such as the necessity of prior teaching experience or the competitiveness of certain colleges. There is also an acknowledgment of the variability in job availability and conditions across different community colleges.

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As a new PhD in physics I am exploring all the options I have. It seems like teaching in a community college is rewarding, relaxed, and well paying (given that you are at certain parts of the country). Anybody taught at community college a full time instructor?

How was it?
How busy were?
Do you have time for family and personal activities during the week?
I have been looking at CC in California and they pay very well. Are they hard and competitive to get?

Feedback is appreciated.
 
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I never have. I have worked as a tutor at quite a few for many years. I believe the positions are extremely hard to get. Its a great job with high pay and benefits. Naturally they get lots of applicants, there are few available positions and often the available positions are for benefitless, part time temporary work. The schools I have worked at have a floor on the salary they are allowed to pay for a full time teacher. Since they can't afford that they just hire part time. They won't let you haggle for less money to get a full time position. I would love the job, but the positions are few and I only have a Master's and can't compete against the PhDs.

Does the school you are looking at actually have an opening for a full time teacher?
 
Thanks!
Yes, there are openings every now and then. For example, Irvine Valley College has an opening but they want at least two years of experience which I don't have. I will apply but not sure I will get it. BTW: why do you say you can't compete with PhDs? It doesn't seem to matter since the ability and commitment to teaching is what matters.
 
Can you spin your various TA duties into some experience? Thats what I did when I applied to such jobs. I never had full time teaching experience, but I had lots of part time tutoring, lab leading and lecturing as a TA experience. Of course I never got the job either so... :P
 
Try Cypress college where I go, it's a pretty good school I think with a lot of good and friendly physics faculty
 
Woopydalan said:
Try Cypress college where I go, it's a pretty good school I think with a lot of good and friendly physics faculty

Do they have an opening? I have not seen one.
 
Those jobs are going to get hundreds of qualified applicants. If you do get the job, you'll be teaching 5 classes a semester. Have you ever taught a class on your own before? Prep for even one new class is a ton of work, let alone five, and that's not counting the grading, teaching, office hours, and labs.
 
who knows, but a number of the faculty have master degrees and not PhD, so maybe you are even more qualified than the already hired faculty? I know one of the professors retired last year and I'm not sure if he has been replaced
 

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