TED Video: Iain McGilchrist: The Divided Brain

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The discussion revolves around Iain McGilchrist's TED Talk on the divided brain, exploring the implications of hemispheric specialization in understanding human nature. Participants engage with the video's content, examining its claims and the presentation of ideas regarding brain function and dualities in processing.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants appreciate the video as a stimulating introduction to the topic of brain hemispheric differences.
  • There is mention of a perceived return to a "false imagination/rationale duality" in McGilchrist's conclusions, suggesting a simplification of complex ideas.
  • One participant proposes that the differences between hemispheres should be framed as complementary aspects of processing rather than oppositional.
  • Another participant notes the brain's organization into various processing dichotomies, emphasizing the importance of integrating these functions.
  • Concerns are raised about the potential obsolescence of earlier research by Gazzaniga and Sperry in light of McGilchrist's assertions.
  • There is a discussion about the brain's plasticity and adaptability, particularly in response to injury, and the challenges of attributing specific functions to isolated brain areas.
  • Language is identified as being predominantly located in the left hemisphere, according to McGilchrist.
  • A humorous remark is made about the "devil’s advocate" being located in the right hemisphere.
  • One participant highlights the evolutionary significance of functional separation in the vertebrate brain compared to non-segmented creatures.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of appreciation for the video's insights and skepticism regarding its simplifications. There is no consensus on the implications of McGilchrist's claims, and multiple viewpoints regarding brain function and hemispheric roles remain present.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the limitations of the video's presentation, suggesting that it may oversimplify complex neurological concepts and that the discussion of brain functions may depend on evolving research.

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Interesting http://www.ted.com/talks/iain_mcgil..._campaign=newsletter_weekly&utm_medium=email"".
'A marvellous and highly original synthesis of ideas on how the division of labour between the two brain hemispheres can provide key insights into human nature - it's odd that such an important subject has been neglected.'

--- Professor VS Ramachandran, Director of the Center for Brain and Cognition, and head of the Neurosciences Graduate Program at the University of California, San Diego, author of The Tell-Tale Brain, and Phantoms in the Brain

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I enjoyed that, thank you
 
Pythagorean said:
I enjoyed that, thank you
Hey,

Did you find anything controversial that he said, especially toward the end of the video ?

Rhody... :confused:
 
Well, he kind of went back to the false imagination/rationale duality in the end, but this is a cartoon, not a peer-reviewed journal. It's role is to give one a general idea and stimulate interest.
 
Pythagorean said:
Well, he kind of went back to the false imagination/rationale duality in the end, but this is a cartoon, not a peer-reviewed journal. It's role is to give one a general idea and stimulate interest.
Thanks, I picked up on that too...

Rhody...
 
rhody said:
Hey, Did you find anything controversial that he said, especially toward the end of the video ?
Rhody... :confused:

Snazzy animation. But yes, he goes from an emotion/logic divide to an intuition/reason divide by the end. So one divided brain replaced by a not much different divided brain.

The trick is to instead frame the description of the difference in a way that it is clearly complementary - two aspects of processing that combine to produce the balanced whole.

So think of the left/right brain story as being about figure and ground, part and whole, focus and context. The left brain zooms into isolate the detail and the right brain steps back to take in the panorama. Every moment of understanding is some combination of this local/global analysis.

And the brain is in fact organised by a whole bunch of processing dichotomies - sensory~motor, attention~habit, what~where, endogenous~exogenous, plasticity~stability, etc. Things always divide into two and then work together. Differentiate so as to be able to integrate.
 
apeiron said:
Differentiate so as to be able to integrate.
aperion,

You have a gift of being able to express things in juxtaposition. Sometimes you remind me of Murray Gell-Mann. Are you a linguist as well ?

Rhody...
 
rhody said:
Interesting http://www.ted.com/talks/iain_mcgil..._campaign=newsletter_weekly&utm_medium=email" (in RSA Animate) on the differences between and commonalities of the right, left hemisphere's of the human brain.

Thanks rhody, nice video, it deserves to be embedded.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFs9WO2B8uI&hd=1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFs9WO2B8uI

rhody said:
I was unaware that the brain is according to McGilchrist asymmetrical between the left and right hemisphere's among other things.

I don’t know if the work of Michael Gazzaniga and Roger Sperry on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Split-brain" is now 'obsolete', but according to this video it seems difficult to refute completely:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCv4K5aStdU

My 'feeling' is that there is (to some extent) plasticity and adaption in the brain (in case of injury for example), and that the "completeness of the network" is what counts (neurons firing in different parts of the brain). Maybe it’s a little hazardous to point out small separate areas in the brain as "this and that" function... but I could (of course) be wrong...

On the other hand, the video clearly shows that language is located in the left hemisphere.


P.S. Naturally I find it very interesting that, according to McGilchrist, the devil’s advocate is located in the right hemisphere. :smile:
 
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The vertebrate brain is definitely more functionally separated then the bundles of nerves that non-segmented creatures have. Its one of the great strides in evolution.
 

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