Telescope Set-Up: Objective & Eyepiece Combination

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the setup of a telescope, specifically focusing on the choice of objective and eyepiece combinations for observing planets and the moon in detail. Participants explore various lens types, their effects on image quality, and budget considerations for DIY telescope projects.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the suitability of a plano-convex objective lens with a 50cm focal length and a Ramsden eyepiece for planetary observation.
  • Another participant advises against using a Ramsden eyepiece due to its narrow field of view and aberrations, suggesting Plossl eyepieces as a better alternative.
  • A third participant agrees with the recommendation for Plossl eyepieces, emphasizing the importance of objective lens diameter for light collection.
  • Concerns are raised about chromatic aberration in single element lenses, with a suggestion that the eyepiece choice may not significantly mitigate this issue.
  • One participant shares their experience with a refractor and notes that chromatic aberration becomes problematic only at very high magnifications.
  • A participant on a low budget seeks advice for a basic telescope setup, proposing a combination of a convex-concave objective lens and a plano concave eyepiece.
  • Another participant provides links to specific lenses and encourages the use of Plossl eyepieces for better quality.
  • A participant reflects on their past experience with a single element lens, describing it as disappointing.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing opinions on the suitability of Ramsden versus Plossl eyepieces, and there is no consensus on the best combination for a budget DIY telescope. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the impact of lens type on image quality.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention various assumptions about lens types, focal lengths, and their effects on viewing quality, but these assumptions are not universally agreed upon. There are also references to personal experiences that may not generalize to all setups.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in amateur astronomy, DIY telescope construction, and those seeking advice on eyepiece and objective lens combinations for planetary observation may find this discussion relevant.

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I am trying to prepare a telescope with the following lens combination. Can someone suggest if it is any good? :confused: I am intending to notice the planets and the moon in detail.

Objective: Plano convex - 50cm focal length
Eye-piece: The lens supplier suggested I use a Ramsden's eye-piece for this. Any other suggestions? :confused:

Also, would the thickness [diameter] of the objective lens make any difference to the telescope?

Regards
Depp.
 
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deppfx said:
I am intending to notice the planets and the moon in detail.

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Eye-piece: The lens supplier suggested I use a Ramsden's eye-piece for this. Any other suggestions? :confused:
I would not recommend a Ramsden eyepiece: they have a tiny exit pupil, narrow field of view (FOV), and suffer from several aberrations. Obviously it depends on your budget, but I would recommend Plossl eyepieces (around $50). These come in a variety of focal lengths and typically have a wider field of view than Ramsdens and good eye relief (for longer focal length eyepieces.)
 
I second Plossl eyepieces, they are relatively cheap and high quality.

The diameter of the objective lens will make lots of difference to the telescope, you will collect more light if you use an objective lens with a diameter of 8 inches than you are using an objective lens with a diameter of 2 inches.

I'm not very familiar with refracting telescopes but I would recommend that you increase your focal length. For planetary observing you want a long focal length telescope and a short focal length eyepiece to get the highest magnification possible, so you can clearly inspect Jupiter's clouds, Saturn's rings, Mar's ice caps, etc. Note that if you are going to be observing deep sky objects you want a larger aperture and a mid to wide field eyepiece; the smaller the focal length of the eyepiece, the less light is going to get through.
 
Is the objective a single element lens? Single element lens suffer from chromatic aberation. The lens maker's eyepiece suggestion makes sense in that regard. The view will only be acceptable near the center of the FOV with a single element objective lens. Spending money on a better eyepiece will not help.
 
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Is the objective a single element lens? Single element lens suffer from chromatic aberation. The lens maker's eyepiece suggestion makes sense in that regard. The view will only be acceptable near the center of the FOV with a single element objective lens. Spending money on a better eyepiece will not help.
If the OP is using a refractor, doubtful the chromatic aberration will be all that different between the Ramsden and Plossl. I have an f/10 100mm achromatic refractor and use Plossl and Celestron X-Cel eyepieces. When viewing planets I only begin to have (minor) problems with chromatic aberration at very high magnification (250x or more).
 
I do want to make a DIY telescope and am on a low budget. I see that the Plossl and Celestron X-Cel eyepieces are a little expensive for a home project. Without much hassle, can someone suggest a basic/good combination for a beginner? I gathered a couple of combination of lenses from the internet.

* Primary Objective lens: Convex-Concave 25mm diameter with a 300mm focal length
* Eyepiece lens: Plano concave 25mm diameter with a 50mm focal length

# Primary Objective lens: A plano-convex lens of +2 diopters with diameter of 2 inches.
# Eyepiece lens: A microscopic eyepiece of 10x power.

Thanks in advance
Depp.
 
Buy http://www.cloudynights.com/classifieds/showproduct.php?product=37733&sort=&cat=26&page=1" lens.

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Buy this http://crawmach.com/TelescopeAcce.aspx" Call him and tell him you are going to put it into a Carton 60mm tube from Sheldon Faworski.

Buy any eyepiece you want at this focal length. Plossls are higher quality than Ramsdens.

Be very happy... as I am with mine!
 
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OK, it's not a single element lens - good. I bought a single element 50mm lens for like $0.95 about 40 years ago. It was disappointing. I mounted it in a spiral wrapped paper tube and achieved astoundingly horrible results. Of course that was like 20 years before I was born so I didn't know any better . . .
 

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