Telling whether a wave function might have physical graph

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The discussion revolves around the physical significance of two wave functions presented in a drawing. Participants are exploring the criteria that determine whether a wave function can be considered physically meaningful, particularly in the context of quantum mechanics.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are questioning the validity of the wave function on the left, particularly its unbounded nature and its implications for physical significance. There is discussion about the necessity of normalization for the square of the wave function to represent a probability distribution.

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The conversation is active, with participants engaging in clarifying the implications of unbounded wave functions and the requirements for normalization. Some guidance has been offered regarding the necessity of the integral of the square of the wave function being finite for it to represent a probability distribution.

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Participants are considering the implications of the wave functions being single-valued and differentiable, while also questioning the assumptions related to their physical interpretations and the conditions for normalization.

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Problem:

Which of the wave functions shown might conceivably have physical significance?

Solution:

I have attached a drawing of the two wave functions. According to my book, the one on the right could have physical significance, while the one on the left does not. Can anyone explain why not? They are both single valued, differentiable functions, so I don't see why the left one is apparently disqualified. Thanks for any help.
 

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Von Neumann said:
Problem:

Which of the wave functions shown might conceivably have physical significance?

Solution:

I have attached a drawing of the two wave functions. According to my book, the one on the right could have physical significance, while the one on the left does not. Can anyone explain why not? They are both single valued, differentiable functions, so I don't see why the left one is apparently disqualified. Thanks for any help.
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I assume the graph on the left continues upward toward ∞ without a bound.
 
Hmmm, that never occurred to me. How would that take away from its physical significance?
 
Well, since the wave function is proportional to finding the object at a specific place at a specific time, and unbounded wave function doesn't make sense. Right?
 
Von Neumann said:
Well, since the wave function is proportional to finding the object at a specific place at a specific time, and unbounded wave function doesn't make sense. Right?

Yes.

Why doesn't it make sense?
 
SammyS said:
Yes.

Why doesn't it make sense?

It doesn't make sense logically because, according to the unbounded function, the object described by the wave function is located at an infinite number of places at the same time.
 
Von Neumann said:
It doesn't make sense logically because, according to the unbounded function, the object described by the wave function is located at an infinite number of places at the same time.
In order for the square of the wave function to represent a probability distribution, what has to be true of the integral of the square of the wave function ?
 
SammyS said:
In order for the square of the wave function to represent a probability distribution, what has to be true of the integral of the square of the wave function ?

The integral of the square of the wave function must be normalized, correct? Are you hinting that it is impossible to normalize the diverging function?
 
Von Neumann said:
The integral of the square of the wave function must be normalized, correct? Are you hinting that it is impossible to normalize the diverging function?
It is impossible if the integral diverges.
 

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