Temperature: Why Measured in Degrees?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the historical and etymological reasons for measuring temperature in degrees, such as degree Celsius and degree Kelvin. Participants explore the implications of using the degree sign and its relation to other contexts where "degree" is applied, including angles and academic degrees.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question why temperature is measured in degrees, suggesting it could have been done without the degree sign.
  • Others clarify that the term "degree" has a Latin origin meaning "a step," which can apply to various contexts, not just temperature.
  • A participant notes that there is no such thing as "degree Kelvin," emphasizing that it is simply "Kelvins."
  • Some express a preference for the Kelvin scale as more logical due to its basis in absolute temperature, while others argue that the Celsius scale is sufficient for everyday use.
  • Concerns are raised about misconceptions related to temperature scales, such as the idea that "200 degrees is twice as hot as 100 degrees."
  • Participants discuss the convenience of using the freezing and boiling points of water as reference points for the Celsius scale.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing opinions on the logical nature of the Celsius versus Kelvin scales, with no consensus reached on which is more appropriate for everyday use or scientific contexts.

Contextual Notes

Some statements reflect assumptions about the logical structure of temperature scales and their applications, which may not be universally accepted or applicable in all contexts.

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Why is it that temperature is measured in degrees (degree Celsius, degree Kelvin etc)? Does it have anything to do with "angular" degrees?
 
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I know it's not the same thing. I just wonder why (historical) they decided to measure temperatures in degrees?

They could have chosen to measure temperatures in just C or F instead of °C and °F? Temperatures doesn't have anything to do with angels.
 
The word degree comes from the Latin word for "a step". Anything with a range of increasing "steps" can be called a degree. An academic degree, a degree of freedom. When you say "to a certain degree" you don't(or shouldn't) mean "to some angle", but "to an extent".

But this has got little to do with physics, so maybe you'd do better looking for good dictionaries, with word etymologies listed.

And by the way, there's no such thing as degree Kelvin. It's just Kelvins.
 
Bandersnatch said:
And by the way, there's no such thing as degree Kelvin. It's just Kelvins.
°K was used sometime before, but it was dropped
 
adjacent said:
but it was dropped

Why?:confused:
 
Thank you king vitamin and Bandersnatch for good answers and for understanding my question! Even though the word "degree" is used in many areas, it's still quite interesting that the degree sign is used both regarding temperatures and angles.

Personally, I'm glad that they dropped the degree sign for Kelvins. Kelvin should be the logical temperature scale.
 
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For those of in Arizona it bad enough to 100+ F. Let’s not go to 300+ K.
 
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Goliatbagge said:
Personally, I'm glad that they dropped the degree sign for Kelvins. Kelvin should be the logical temperature scale.

That's just your opinion. Having a range with the freezing point of water be zero and the boiling point of water to be 100 is less logical, how?
 
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Imager said:
For those of in Arizona it bad enough to 100+ F. Let’s not go to 300+ K.

:biggrin:

phinds said:
That's just your opinion. Having a range with the freezing point of water be zero and the boiling point of water to be 100 is less logical, how?

Since temperature is a measure of mean kinetic energy of atoms, then the temperature should be zero when all atoms are in rest. So, in a strict physical sense, I think the Kelvin scale is the most logical one.

With that said, I would not use the Kelvin scale in every day life. The Celsius scale is just fine and logical enough.
 
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Goliatbagge said:
With that said, I would not use the Kelvin scale in every day life. The Celsius scale is just fine and logical enough.

Agreed. The thing I DO hate about the use of C is that non-scientific types can be heard on occasion to say nonsensical things like "200 degrees is twice as hot as 100 degrees"
 
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phinds said:
That's just your opinion. Having a range with the freezing point of water be zero and the boiling point of water to be 100 is less logical, how?

You need two points and these were obviously convenient ones that could be reproduced in different laboratories for comparison, standardisation etc. ?
 
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Lot of uses in Physics..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Degree_(disambiguation )

Degree symbol, (°), a notation used in science, engineering and mathematics
Degree (angle), a unit of angle measurement
Degree in geographic coordinate system
Degree (temperature), a unit of temperature measurement
Degree API, a measure of density in the petroleum industry
Degree Baumé, a pair of density scales
Degree Brix, a measure of sugar concentration
Degree Gay-Lussac, a measure of the alcohol content of a liquid by volume, ranging from 0° to 100°
Degree proof, or simply proof, the alcohol content of a liquid, ranging from 0° to 175° in the UK, and from 0° to 200° in the U.S.
Degree of curvature, a unit of curvature measurement, used in civil engineering
Degrees of freedom (mechanics), the number of displacements and/or rotations needed to define the position and orientation of a body
Degrees of freedom (physics and chemistry), a concept describing dependence on a countable set of parameters
Degree of frost, a unit of temperature measurement
Degrees Lintner, a measure of enzymatic activity
Degrees Lovibond, a measure of transparency
Degree of unsaturation, in organic chemistry, also known as the index of hydrogen deficiency or rings plus double bonds
dGH, degrees of general hardness of water
Degree of carbonate hardness of water (degree KH)
 
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