Tension and Work Calculations for Lifting a 285kg Load 22m Vertically

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The discussion revolves around the calculations related to lifting a 285 kg load vertically by a cable, specifically focusing on tension, work done, and acceleration. The problem involves concepts from mechanics, including forces, work, and kinematics.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between tension, gravitational force, and acceleration, with some attempting to clarify the correct equations for tension and net force. Questions arise regarding the definitions of positive and negative directions in the context of forces.

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Some participants have provided guidance on the equations to use for calculating tension, while others express confusion about the conceptual understanding of the relationships between the variables involved. There is an ongoing exploration of how to approach the calculation of net work and the reasoning behind the formulas used.

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Participants note a desire to understand the underlying principles rather than just obtaining numerical answers, indicating a focus on conceptual clarity. There is mention of specific values and variables, but the discussion remains open-ended regarding the methods to derive the answers.

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Homework Statement


A 285 kg load is lifted 22 m vertically with an acceleration a=.16 g by a single cable. Determine (a) the tension in the cable, (b) the net work done on the load, (c) the work done by the cable on the load, (d) the work done by gravity on the load, and (e) the final speed of the load assuming it started from rest.


Homework Equations


F=ma
Ft=g+ma?


The Attempt at a Solution


t= g + ma
t= g + (285)(-a)
t-mg= sigma F
t-mg=9.8-285a
t-2793= 9.8- 285a
 
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fraxinus said:

The Attempt at a Solution


t= g + ma
t= g + (285)(-a)
t-mg= sigma F
t-mg=9.8-285a
t-2793= 9.8- 285a

your equation should be ma=T-mg, so T=ma+mg. You can get T now.
 
so sigma F = T-mg? did you define y positive as up, and therefore tension as positive and mg negative? or am i mixed up?
 
fraxinus said:
so sigma F = T-mg? did you define y positive as up, and therefore tension as positive and mg negative? or am i mixed up?

Yes I took up as positive.
 
sweet thanks! i got the right answer, but I'm still conceptually not understanding why we needed to both multiply and add the gravity to the acceleration. in other words, i never would have guessed to multiply .16 by 9.8... how do i know to do that? i know the g stands for gravity, but i don't see how i was supposed to know that.

now, for part b, i understand the formula for net work is W(net)= .5(m)(v)^2 - .5(m)(v)^2. however, when i simply multiply all the variables in the question together, i get the right answer. 285x22x9.8x.16= 9830 N. i don't want to just get the answers, i want to understand where they come from; am i supposed to use a velocity formula in here somewhere to get to the answer? thanks again!
 

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