Tension in cable D is equivalent to the tension in cable B?

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The discussion revolves around the tension in cables supporting a truck engine in a repair shop, specifically comparing the tensions in cables B and D. The problem involves understanding the forces acting on the engine, including gravitational force and tensions in the cables.

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  • Participants explore the relationship between the tensions in cables B and D, with references to free body diagrams and the forces acting on the engine. There are questions about the assumptions made regarding the vertical components of the tensions.

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Participants are actively discussing the forces involved and questioning the equivalence of tensions in cables B and D. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of free body diagrams to analyze the situation, and there is recognition of the need to consider the vertical components of the forces.

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There is a mention of forum rules requiring participants to show their work, and some participants express curiosity rather than a direct request for solutions. The discussion reflects on the implications of the setup and the forces involved without reaching a definitive conclusion.

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Homework Statement
In a repair shop a truck engine that has mass 429 kg
is held in place by four light cables (Figure 1). Cable A is horizontal, cables B
and D are vertical, and cable C makes an angle of 37.1∘
with a vertical wall. Tension in cable A is 757 N.
Relevant Equations
T - mg = ma
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I found the tension of cable B by doing mg + Csin(37.1). I found C by doing 757(Tension in cable A) = Ccos(37.1).
I was just wondering if the tension in cable D is equivalent to the tension in cable B. If possible please show the steps on how you determined if they are equivalent or not.
Thank you!
 
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yashboi123 said:
Homework Statement: In a repair shop a truck engine that has mass 429 kg
is held in place by four light cables (Figure 1). Cable A is horizontal, cables B
and D are vertical, and cable C makes an angle of 37.1∘
with a vertical wall. Tension in cable A is 757 N.
Relevant Equations: T - mg = ma

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I found the tension of cable B by doing mg + Csin(37.1). I found C by doing 757(Tension in cable A) = Ccos(37.1).
I was just wondering if the tension in cable D is equivalent to the tension in cable B. If possible please show the steps on how you determined if they are equivalent or not.
Thank you!
That sounds like part "C". per forum rules you must show us, if you get stuck after a reasonable attempt we help.
 
erobz said:
That sounds like part "C". per forum rules you must show us, if you get stuck after a reasonable attempt we help.
No it's not a part C, I'm just curious lol promise. Here is the full page
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Well, if you want to find the tension in the rope ##D## do a free body diagram of the engine.
 
It would be tension upward(or normal force since they are equivalent in this situation) and mg downward. I suppose then they wouldn't be equivalent since in this situation we only take into account mg, not the vertical tension in cable C since cable D is below that point.
 
yashboi123 said:
It would be tension upward(or normal force since they are equivalent in this situation) and mg downward. I suppose then they wouldn't be equivalent since in this situation we only take into account mg, not the vertical tension in cable C since cable D is below that point.
Is my thought process correct here?
 
yashboi123 said:
Is my thought process correct here?
Yeah, there are two forces acting on the engine block on opposite directions, and the engine is not accelerating. We know one of them is it weight the other is the tension in rope ##D##, hence;

$$T_D - mg = 0 $$
 
erobz said:
Yeah, there are two forces acting on the engine block on opposite directions, and the engine is not accelerating. We know one of them is it weight the other is the tension in rope ##D##, hence;

$$T_D - mg = 0 $$
Thanks mate, that was a dumb mistake from me it's pretty clear since D is below C the vertical component of Tc wouldn't be considered.
 
yashboi123 said:
Thanks mate, that was a dumb mistake from me it's pretty clear since D is below C the vertical component of Tc wouldn't be considered.
You're Welcome.
 
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