How Do You Calculate the Tension in Cords with Varying Angles and Loads?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the tension in cords supporting loads in an elevator moving at constant velocity. The problem involves three angles and corresponding masses, requiring an understanding of forces in equilibrium.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of tensions T1, T2, and T3, with one participant initially applying a formula incorrectly. There is a focus on the relationship between the y-components of the tensions and the equilibrium conditions. Questions arise about the correct setup for T2 and the angles involved.

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Some participants have made progress in understanding the problem, with one noting a realization about the need to consider the acceleration of the system. There is an acknowledgment of the need to correctly identify the components of the tensions, and one participant has confirmed their understanding of the setup for T2.

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Participants are working under the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the information they can use or the methods they can apply. The discussion reflects a process of clarification and exploration of the problem's requirements.

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Homework Statement



Figure P4.24 shows loads hanging from the ceiling of an elevator that is moving at constant velocity. Find the tension in each of the three strands of cord supporting each load, given that θ1 = 40°, θ2 = 50°, θ3 = 62°, m1 = 3 kg, and m2 = 6 kg.

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Homework Equations



F = mg(sin theta)

The Attempt at a Solution



it asks for the answers for all of the T's but i found it for T1 - 3 for (a), and T3 for (b). I tried doing T1 = 6(9.8)(sin62) for part a, image B but it told me i have the wrong answer. and I'm completely lost on T2 for part b.

any suggestions?
 

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anteaters said:

Homework Statement



Figure P4.24 shows loads hanging from the ceiling of an elevator that is moving at constant velocity. Find the tension in each of the three strands of cord supporting each load, given that θ1 = 40°, θ2 = 50°, θ3 = 62°, m1 = 3 kg, and m2 = 6 kg.

p4-24alt.gif


Homework Equations



F = mg(sin theta)

The Attempt at a Solution



it asks for the answers for all of the T's but i found it for T1 - 3 for (a), and T3 for (b). I tried doing T1 = 6(9.8)(sin62)

This is close, but notice that it would make T1 be smaller than T3, which can't be true here.

Instead, you want the y component of T1 to cancel out the y component of T3 (since T2 has no y component). What are the y components of those two strings?
 
okay i was looking through my book and realized what to do. i was just plugging and chugging with numbers instead of looking at the problem and actually solving it. so for T1 i needed to realize that m(a) = 0 because the acceleration of the system = 0. so the only other force in the y direction was T3. so i found T1(sin 62) - T3 = 0. then i solved for T1 by doing 58.8/sin 62 = 66.59...
now for T2, would i set it up as T2 - T1(cos 28) = 0? i got 28 because in the x direction the angle would be 28 degrees below the axis in a negative direction. or would it be sin 28? any help would be appreciated
 
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nevermind, i figured it out. it was sin 28. thanks for your time alphysicist.
 

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