Tensor Conventions: V^*⊗V^*⊗V (1,2) vs (2,1)

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The discussion clarifies the tensor notation for ## V^* \otimes V^* \otimes V##, establishing that it is referred to as (1,2) in physics, indicating one contravariant index and two covariant indices. The participants agree that the components of the tensor, represented as ##T^a_{bc}##, have the contravariant index ##a## and covariant indices ##b## and ##c##. The conversation emphasizes the distinction between the mathematical definitions of functors and their application in physics, particularly regarding the transformation properties of tensor components during coordinate changes.

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How do physicists call a tensor of ## V^* \otimes V^* \otimes V##, (1,2) or (2,1)?
And which part do they call contravariant and which covariant?

I'm just not sure, whether the mathematical definition of funktors apply to the usances in physics.
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I would say (1,2) - one in V and two in its dual. I would not call the tensor itself covariant or contravariant. I would say that the components transform co- or contravariantly. In this case, the components would be of the form ##T^a_{bc}## with the ##a## being labelled as a contravariant index whereas ##bc## would be labelled covariant.
 
Thanks, that was my understanding, too. And, yes, that was my problem: the distinction between "transforms as" which refers to the behavior in a change of coordinates and the property itself, because mathematically the dual ##bc## part changes direction of morphisms and thus should have been contra instead of co. So the point is, that mathematicians use these terms as a property of functors whereas physicists refer to coordinates w.r.t. the same object.

I hope I finally got it now.
 

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