Terence tao's list of mathematical embarrassments

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The discussion revolves around the concept of mathematical embarrassments, which are problems that seem solvable yet remain unresolved. Participants explore various examples of such problems, including the invariant subspace problem, Goldbach's conjecture, perfect numbers, Fermat's last theorem, and the four-color problem, discussing their perceived difficulty and the status of their solutions.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that the invariant subspace problem is not an embarrassment in finite dimensions.
  • Goldbach's conjecture is mentioned as a mathematical embarrassment, but only one participant raises it.
  • Perfect numbers are noted as easy to understand but challenging to derive interesting results about, with all known perfect numbers being even.
  • Fermat's last theorem and the four-color problem are also discussed as examples of problems with complex proofs.
  • One participant highlights the recent achievement of expressing 33 as a sum of three cubes, noting that while it fits the definition of an embarrassment, it does not feel like one due to its complexity.
  • There is uncertainty regarding the existence of odd perfect numbers and the status of Mersenne and Fermat numbers, with no consensus on whether there are infinitely many primes among them.
  • Terence Tao's contributions to Goldbach's conjecture are acknowledged, with a reference to partial solutions he has provided.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on what constitutes a mathematical embarrassment, with no consensus on specific problems or their classifications. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the status and nature of several mathematical problems mentioned.

Contextual Notes

Participants express limitations in understanding the complexity of proofs for certain problems and the unresolved status of various conjectures and number classifications. There are also dependencies on definitions regarding what constitutes a mathematical embarrassment.

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http://rjlipton.wordpress.com/2009/12/26/mathematical-embarrassments/:
A mathematical embarrassment (ME) is a problem that should have been solved by now. An ME usually is easy to state, seems approachable, and yet resists all attempts at an attack. There may be many reasons that they are yet to be solved, but they “feel” like they should have been solved already.

i didn't think the invariant subspace problem would be an embarrassment. i guess it's not all that hard for finite dimensions. only one person mentioned goldbach's conjecture, & nobody said anything about perfect numbers. they seem pretty easy to understand but hard to say interesting things about. same with fermat's last theorem & the 4-colour problem
 
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I have recently read that someone figured out how to write ##33## as a sum of three cubes and that now ##42## is the next number to target.

The cubes have been so absurd, that I wouldn't call it an embarrassment although it fits the definition above.
##(8,866,128,975,287,528)^3 + ( - 8,778,405,442,862,239)^3 + (-2,736,111,468,807,040)^3 = 33##
 
fourier jr said:
http://rjlipton.wordpress.com/2009/12/26/mathematical-embarrassments/:i didn't think the invariant subspace problem would be an embarrassment. i guess it's not all that hard for finite dimensions. only one person mentioned goldbach's conjecture, & nobody said anything about perfect numbers. they seem pretty easy to understand but hard to say interesting things about. same with fermat's last theorem & the 4-colour problem
As to perfect numbers, we know all the even ones, because every Mersenne prime has a corresponding perfect number, and such perfect numbers are all the even ones. However, we have been unable to find any odd perfect numbers, and we have been unable to prove that there are none.

As to Mersenne numbers ##M_p = 2^p-1## for primes ##p##, we don't know if a finite number or infinite number of them is prime or else is composite. Likewise, of the Fermat numbers ##F_n = 2^{2^n}+1##, the lowest five are prime, and all other ones that we have been able to test are composite. We don't know if there are any other Fermat primes, or else if the first five are all of them.

Terence Tao himself has found partial solutions to Goldbach's conjecture: Terence Tao releases partial solution to the Goldbach conjecture « Math Drudge, Goldbach conjecture | What's new

As to Fermat's Last Thorem and the Four-Color Hypothesis, the problem is that their proofs are *very* complicated.
 

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