Testing series with ln's for convergence

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The discussion revolves around testing the convergence of two series involving logarithmic and rational functions. Participants explore methods for determining convergence and express uncertainty regarding specific approaches.

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  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses difficulty in testing the series \(\Sigma \, \ln\left(\frac{(k+1)^{2}}{k(k+2)}\right)\) for convergence and seeks suggestions for comparison series.
  • Another participant presents a different series \(\Sigma \, \frac{(k+2)}{2^{k}k(k+1)}\) and asserts its convergence, questioning how to determine its exact sum.
  • A third participant provides a detailed analysis of the first series, utilizing properties of logarithms to simplify the expression and suggesting that the limit as \(n\) approaches infinity leads to a specific value, depending on the starting index \(k\).
  • The same participant expresses uncertainty about the second series and indicates a lack of time to explore it further.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the methods for testing convergence or the exact sum of the second series. There are differing levels of confidence regarding the approaches discussed.

Contextual Notes

Participants do not provide specific assumptions or definitions that might limit the discussion. The analysis of the first series relies on properties of logarithms and cancellation, but the steps are not universally accepted as definitive.

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Readers interested in series convergence, logarithmic functions, and mathematical analysis may find the discussion relevant.

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I'm pretty embarassed that with a math degree I don't know how to do this. But today someone asked me to help him test this series for convergence:

[tex]\Sigma \, ln(\dfrac{(k+1)^{2}}{k(k+2)} )[/tex]

Maybe I'm just having a brain fart, but I can't think of any series to compare this to, and I obviously can't use the ratio, root, or integral tests. Any suggestions?
 
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One other question, if you guys don't mind. I saw the following series,

[tex]\Sigma \, \dfrac{(k+2)}{2^{k}k(k+1)}[/tex]

Anyway, it's pretty obvious that this series converges, but is there a way to precisely determine what it converges to?
 
The first one isn't too hard using the rules of logs when you write them out in a series, realising you're actually considering the total multiplication of all the bits inside the ln( ... ) and then taking the ln.

[tex]\ln \left( \frac{(k+1)^{2}}{k(k+2)} \right) + \ln \left( \frac{(k+2)^{2}}{(k+1)(k+3)} \right) + \ln \left( \frac{(k+3)^{2}}{(k+2)(k+4)} \right) = \ln \left( \frac{(k+1)(k+3)}{k(k+4)} \right)[/tex]

Notice that the k+2 terms have canceled along with one factor of the other numerators. Extending this you get

[tex]\ln \left( \frac{(k+1)^{2}}{k(k+2)} \right) + \ldots + \ln \left( \frac{(k+n)^{2}}{(k+n-1)(k+n+1)} \right) = \ln \left( \frac{(k+1)(k+n)}{k(k+n+1)} \right)[/tex]

Can you see from the 3 term case why it extends to this? All terms cancel except two in the first and two in the last.

Split this up back into two expressions :

[tex]\ln \left( \frac{(k+1)}{k} \right) + \ln \left( \frac{(k+n)}{(k+n+1)} \right)[/tex]

Take n-> infinity gives the second term as ln(1) = 0. The first term depends on what you're taking k to be. If you start at k=1 then you end up with the total sum as ln(2).

Job's a good 'un :)

I'm not sure about the second one. I'd give it a try, but it's 2.40am and I should be asleep :o
 
Wow, I can't believe I didn't think of that! Thanks a lot for your help.
 

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