Textbook for MIT OCW's 8.04: Quantum Physics I

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The discussion revolves around selecting a second textbook for MIT OCW's 8.04 Quantum Physics I course, specifically after the participant has chosen Shankar's book. Participants share recommendations and insights on the listed textbooks, exploring their strengths and perspectives on quantum mechanics.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests using Shankar and Sakurai as complementary texts, noting Sakurai's modern approach to quantum mechanics.
  • Another participant expresses a preference for Gasiorowicz, highlighting its historical context in quantum mechanics and its connections to classical thermodynamics, despite finding some derivations challenging.
  • There is a discussion about the editions of Sakurai, with one participant indicating a preference for the first edition based on its authorship and questioning the improvements in the second edition.
  • Some participants emphasize the importance of comparing the subjects covered in Shankar and Sakurai to gain a broader understanding of the material.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on which textbook should be recommended as the second source. Multiple competing views on the suitability of Gasiorowicz, Sakurai, and the editions of Sakurai remain present.

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Participants express varying levels of familiarity with the textbooks and their content, which may influence their recommendations. There is also a mention of personal study plans that could affect the choice of textbooks.

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In MIT OCW's video course 8.04 Quantum Physics I there are four textbooks listed, and readings suggested for each. In the video of the first lecture the professor recommends studying in groups with people who have done readings from different textbooks. Since I'm not taking the class at MIT that really isn't an option, but I would like to do the recommended readings from 2 of the 4 textbooks. Here are the four recommended textbooks for the course:

1. Quantum Physics of Atoms, Molecules, Solids, Nuclei, and Particles by Robert M. Eisberg and Robert Resnick

2. Introductory Quantum Mechanics by Richard L. Liboff

3. Quantum Physics by Stephen Gasiorowicz

4. Principles of Quantum Mechanics by Ramamurti Shankar.

I have already bought #4 Shankar because I found him to be an extremely effective teacher from the OpenYaleCourses videos he posted for Mechanics and E&M. What would you guys recommend the best option for the second source to be of the remaining three to maybe cover things from a different perspective than Shankar? And why would you recommend your choice for book #2?

My math background is pretty strong since I have a bachelors in pure math (though from 15 years ago) and I have kept up with a lot of topics applicable (e.g., linear algebra, functional analysis, PDE, group theory, probability) through MOOCs and self-study. I mean no surprises in chapter 1 of Shankar when he goes over the math. I have also done the two courses on MIT OCW on Kleppner & Kolenkow (favorite physics book ever) and Purcell, as well as about half a semester of Lagrangian and Hamiltonian mechanics from Goldstein (from the NTNU classical mechanics course on youtube and of course the homework problems too).
 
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I have only 2 books to recommend, at least according to what you wrote about yourself: Shankar and Sakurai, even though the latter goes as 'graduate'. Shankar has the standard material, Sakurai wrote a wonderful book, very modern approach to the topics. You can compare the subjects in both books.
 
I don't think this is enough to recommend Gasiorowicz, but I really like his first chapter about the history of quantum mehcanics. It's one of the few textbooks where one can learn that classical thermodynamics works for quantum mechanics and blackbody radiation, but not classical statistical mechanics. The amazing thing to me is that once one uses quantum statistical mechanics and has Planck's amazing derivation, the classically derived formulas like Wien's displacement law and the Stefan-Boltzmann law survive the quantum revolution. I don't think I understood any of the derivations in Gasiorowicz, but it presented enough motivation to learn the material from more understandable sources. I think Wannier's solid state textbook has a classical derivation of Wien's displacement law.
 
dextercioby said:
I have only 2 books to recommend, at least according to what you wrote about yourself: Shankar and Sakurai, even though the latter goes as 'graduate'. Shankar has the standard material, Sakurai wrote a wonderful book, very modern approach to the topics. You can compare the subjects in both books.

I want to eventually read Sakurai, but I want to save it for when I may be more ready with a solid foundation of undergrad level study in the subject. I'm hoping to do 8.04 on my own and then 8.05 on edx when it's offered in February. Is the first or second edition of Sakurai better?
 
1st edition is about 80% written by the late prof. Sakurai. I can't imagine in what way the 2nd edition can be better. But you can look that up in reviews online (like the ones on amazon), of course.
 

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