Textbooks of celestial mechanics

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around recommendations for textbooks on celestial mechanics, with a focus on the balance between mathematical rigor and practical application. Participants express interest in both introductory and advanced texts, as well as specific topics such as Kepler orbits and Hamiltonian formalism.

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  • Debate/contested
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses interest in rigorous mathematical treatments of celestial mechanics, specifically mentioning Taylor's classical mechanics and its section on Kepler orbits.
  • Another participant questions the need for mathematical rigor, suggesting that Abraham and Marsden's "Foundations of Mechanics" is abstract and sophisticated but may not provide practical problem-solving skills.
  • A different participant distinguishes between mathematical rigor and sophistication, indicating that serious study of celestial mechanics may require knowledge of Hamiltonian formalism and perturbation theories, which they associate with analytical mechanics.
  • One participant requests mathematical derivations related to elliptical orbits, specifically referencing Taylor's book as a source for such information.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not appear to reach a consensus on the importance of mathematical rigor versus practical application in celestial mechanics textbooks. Multiple competing views regarding the nature and focus of recommended texts remain evident.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note that the existing textbooks they are familiar with are challenging and somewhat outdated, indicating potential limitations in the availability of modern resources.

Santiago24
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Hi I'm reading classical mechanics by Taylor and there is a section about Kepler orbits that i find very interesting so i'd like to see more of classical mechanics with space applications. I appreciate rigouros mathematical books, thanks
 
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Are you sure you're after mathematical rigour? Abraham and Marsden's book Foundations of Mechanics contains a ridiculously abstract and mathematically-sophisticated exposition of celestial mechanics but it won't teach you much physics, or indeed how to solve many practical problems (!).
 
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Well, mathematical rigor and mathematical sophistication are not the same things.

In any case, I'm also interested in introductory textbooks for Celestial mechanics. I'm under the impression that any serious study of celestial mechanics requires a lot of knowledge of the Hamiltonian formalism and Hamiltonian perturbation theories (but that comes from reading books on analytical mechanics). The few books I know on celestial mechanics are quite hard and somewhat old.
 
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ergospherical said:
Are you sure you're after mathematical rigour? Abraham and Marsden's book Foundations of Mechanics contains a ridiculously abstract and mathematically-sophisticated exposition of celestial mechanics but it won't teach you much physics, or indeed how to solve many practical problems (!).
I want to see the mathematical derivation of things like why orbits around the sun are elliptical in Taylor book, thanks for the recommendations!
 
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