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I see Schumer is up for election in 16, when the President will still be in office giving speeches, issuing orders, and by that time pardoning whomever.
Given the popularity of the U.S. around the world, the possibilities for "poetic justice" are intriguing. Might not be as bad an idea as it first appears. Thin the herd, so to speak.Astronuc said:I would like to see less of this - Senate Democrats muscle big Obama donors into ambassadorships
"Tempest in a teapot?" DoD bashing/social overhead/engineering programs/legislation have been, with the exception of HST's integration order, disasters. Correcting (mis)management problems from the bottom up rather than top down just doesn't work. Breaks morale, aggravates target problems, in a vicious circle.Astronuc said:But then not so fast - Senators renew push on military sexual assault cases
Astronuc said:I would like to see less of this - Senate Democrats muscle big Obama donors into ambassadorships
http://news.yahoo.com/senate-democrats-muscle-big-obama-donors-into-ambassadorships-175252008.html
Astronuc said:I would like to see less of this - Senate Democrats muscle big Obama donors into ambassadorships
On the ticker just now, "Two day extension to prevent government shutdown." Still 113th, but methinks it bodes ill for 114th.Astronuc said:Hopefully, they'll start passing budgets rather than continuing resolutions.
Well, that's nice for you but what does that have to do with this this post?Doug Huffman said:I am an anti-progressive conservative ultimately skeptical of science by consensus. I am guided by a careful and thorough reading of Karl Popper's The Logic of Scientific Discovery, that advanced falsificationism, and his The Open Society and Its Enemies (your hero George Soros' principal handbook) that taught the fallacy of the dialectic and lead to The Poverty of Historicism.
Cake said:Ted Cruz appointed to head of Space, Science, and Competitiveness subcommittee in congress:
http://www.theverge.com/2015/1/11/7528337/senator-ted-cruz-nasa-subcommittee
I don't even care about his stance on cutbacks, but it's very clear to me from this that whoever is in charge in the republican party has it out for science that they don't agree with (namely global warming). I see this appointment as a bad sign that we're probably in for rough 8-or-so years of republican control of science and technology in the US.
I'm not sure why everybody is crying in their beer.Cake said:Ted Cruz appointed to head of Space, Science, and Competitiveness subcommittee in congress:
http://www.theverge.com/2015/1/11/7528337/senator-ted-cruz-nasa-subcommittee
I don't even care about his stance on cutbacks, but it's very clear to me from this that whoever is in charge in the republican party has it out for science that they don't agree with (namely global warming). I see this appointment as a bad sign that we're probably in for rough 8-or-so years of republican control of science and technology in the US.
SteamKing said:Also, US congressional elections are held every two years, with all of the lower chamber and one-third of the upper chamber standing for election, and each election brings the possibility, however remote, of a shift in control of one or both houses of congress.
I understand this is oversimplified, but that's an interesting observation. Although saying the D's value scientists only as voters is a bit cynical . Fact is, there just aren't that many scientists to catch the interest of either party, IMO.Vanadium 50 said:I have taken a trek or three up to the Hill, and talked to Congresspeople from both sides of the aisle. I would think it is a mistake to consider one party pro-science and one party anti-science. If pushed, I would say that Republicans are more pro-science (i.e. they see scientific investment as a national good) and Democrats are more pro-scientist (i.e. they see scientists and other academics as one of their core constituencies) but this is an oversimplification that is almost as bad.
Little context for lisab's observation.Vanadium 50 said:but this is an oversimplification that is almost as bad.
Even more cynically, are both parties merely seeking Madison Avenue endorsements from the scientific community with which to "snow" the voters?lisab said:Fact is, there just aren't that many scientists to catch the interest of either party, IMO.
Astronuc said:I would like to see less of this - Senate Democrats muscle big Obama donors into ambassadorships
"Hartley is known for being a campaign bundler who raised more than $500,000 for Obama's re-election bid in 2012.[19]" --- Wikilisab said:Places that require diplomatic "heavy lifting" don't usually get this kind of appointee.
lisab said:Although saying the D's value scientists only as voters is a bit cynical
I would add that for stances on most particular issues, politics trumps science to the point of irrelevancy. Democrats can say (and be right) that the Republican position on global warming goes against the science, but Republicans can say (and be right) that the Democratic position on nuclear energy contradicts science and the Democrats' global warming position.Vanadium 50 said:I would think it is a mistake to consider one party pro-science and one party anti-science. If pushed, I would say that Republicans are more pro-science (i.e. they see scientific investment as a national good) and Democrats are more pro-scientist (i.e. they see scientists and other academics as one of their core constituencies) but this is an oversimplification that is almost as bad.
I'm not so sure. Senate passed Keystone with 63 votes, 3 shy, for a vote that, for the moment, doesn't mean anything because as you say because it will be vetoed at first and Obama himself takes the brunt of the opposition. Should Obama stay on trend with the like of skipping Paris, voting with him might become increasing expensive.russ_watters said:...meaningless because:
1. They can't overturn a veto...
Respectfully, this was a waste of time.mheslep said:We the Confused have an ongoing petition to the executive branch for the removal of Senator Ted Cruz from oversight of the space-science committee, 17K so far. The wording is probably too timid to succeed; authors should have demanded the Senator be jailed by an executive Bill of Attainder, his property seized, and then deported when released.
SteamKing said:Respectfully, this was a waste of time. Only the Senate has jurisdiction ...
'America will never tap into educational innovation and ingenuity without looking at the model that we have in our madrassas, in our schools, where innovation is encouraged, where the foundation is the Qu'ran.'
'It's unfortunate that there are those [undercover law enforcement] who are thinking that, at this convention right now, we're having secret meetings, that we're plotting to destroy this country. But I say to those who are here undercover: Allah will not allow you to stop us.'
Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, has been in the Senate for 37 years, and he’s seen it all. But for the first time in his career, he has a security detail.
Hatch, who will turn 81 in March, was elevated to his new position after Republicans took control of the Senate last fall. It’s a largely ceremonial post given by tradition to the longest-serving member of the majority party. It includes a few significant duties, such as signing legislation that’s been passed by both chambers before it leaves Congress on its way to the White House. The holder of the post also presides over the Senate when it is in session, though this latter duty is often delegated to newer members of the body.
Most important, the president pro tempore is third in line to the presidency, after the vice president and the speaker of the House.
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Cruz, a first-term senator who represents Texas, said deep-pocketed donors should have the same rights to write giant campaign checks as voters have to put signs in their front yards. Both, Cruz said, were an example of political speech, and he added that "money absolutely can be speech."
"I believe everyone here has a right to speak out on politics as effectively as possible," Cruz said told a voter who asked him about the role of the super-rich in politics.
Astronuc said:GOP Lawmakers: Speaker Boehner to resign end of October
http://news.yahoo.com/gop-lawmakers-speaker-boehner-resign-end-october-134146275--politics.html
Five years as a doormat for Obama, Reid, Pelosi & Co.? A surprise?lisab said:completely surprising