The Bouncing Ball Lab- Loss of Energy

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The discussion revolves around a lab experiment involving a bouncing golf ball, where the original poster is tasked with calculating potential energy (PE), velocity, and height differences. The final questions focus on determining the initial height needed for the ball to rebound to a specific height and explaining the energy loss in terms of conservation of energy.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to calculate the initial height required for a specific rebound height and seeks clarification on the conservation of energy concept related to energy loss during bounces.
  • Some participants question the use of energy ratios and suggest considering the fraction of energy lost observed during the bounces.
  • Others express uncertainty about how to determine the initial height based on the given potential energy values.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing hints and exploring various aspects of energy conservation and calculations. There is a recognition of the complexity of the problem, particularly regarding the initial height determination and the implications of energy loss.

Contextual Notes

The original poster has provided specific measurements and calculations related to the experiment, including mass, initial height, and potential energy values. There is a time constraint mentioned, as the assignment is due the following morning.

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1. Okay. So, my lab is to bounce a ball at a given high while i calculate the time, mass, and different heights. Given these I find the PE, Velocity, and Difference in PE. I've gotten most of the lab complete but there is a final question that asks "If you wanted the golf ball to rebound to a height of 3ft, which was the tested initial height, how high in units of ft would the golf ball need to be initially placed before released.
2. There is also a question that asks: "Calculate the difference in PE in J between the initial height and rebound height, and explain what happened to account for the loss of height in terms of conservation of energy?" I understand how to find the difference the PE from the initial height and the PE after it was rebounded but what does she mean by the conservation of energy thing?




3. For the golf ball I have an initial height of .91m, a PE of .4 J, a velocity of 2.33 m/s, avg rebound height of .56m w/ a PE of .25 J, and the difference is .15 J.



4. I am not sure where to start, really. I thought of possibly doing .4J/.25J and plugging that into PE=mgH but I'm not sure if that'd give me the answer. If anyone could please help me that'd be great. This paper is due at 8am tomorrow morning. Thanks!
Additional info: M=45g Initial height 1 yd travel time: .39sec.
 
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8am in which time zone? ;)

I thought of possibly doing .4J/.25J and plugging that into PE=mgH
You cannot use a ratio as an energy value.
You can assume that this ratio is the same for each bounce (it won't be, but it is a good approximation). What was the fraction of energy lost you observed? If it is the same for every bounce, ...

but what does she mean by the conservation of energy thing?
Did you hear of conservation of energy? You start with .4J and end up with .25J, could this be an issue?
 
mfb said:
8am in which time zone? ;)

You cannot use a ratio as an energy value.
You can assume that this ratio is the same for each bounce (it won't be, but it is a good approximation). What was the fraction of energy lost you observed? If it is the same for every bounce, ...

Did you hear of conservation of energy? You start with .4J and end up with .25J, could this be an issue?

Sorry, Eastern Time Zone. Clemson, SC. Well what i did was (.045kg)(9.8m/s^s)(.91)=.40 kgm^s/s^s=.40J Then, (.045kg)(9.8m/s^2)(.56m)= .25J. So, .40J-.25J= .15J. And, i understand that the energy lost will not be the same, as the heights will be different with every bounce due to the loss of energy. I just can't seem to figure out the initial height. Any hints you can give me? I'm really stuck..
 
All of my previous post is a collection of hints how to proceed...
 

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