The Cass Report (UK)

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the Cass Report, a review of gender medicine in the UK, particularly focusing on the treatment of children regarding gender identity. Participants explore the report's methodology, the criticisms it has received, and the implications of its findings on medical practices related to gender treatment.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express concerns about the methodology of the Cass Report, suggesting it may be poorly evidenced and that many studies on gender questioning children are methodologically flawed.
  • Others argue that the report has led to significant changes in practice, with the NHS halting the prescription of puberty blockers shortly after its publication, indicating its political sensitivity.
  • There is a discussion about the appropriateness of excluding low-quality studies from systematic reviews, with some participants questioning whether this practice is considered bad methodology.
  • Some participants highlight the potential biases in studies regarding attrition rates and the implications for systematic reviews, particularly in the context of studies on suicidal thoughts pre- and post-treatment.
  • One participant mentions the GRADE rating system, questioning its acceptance and application in evaluating study quality.
  • There are differing opinions on whether the exclusion of low-quality studies undermines the evidence synthesis, with some suggesting that it may be necessary to avoid unreliable data.
  • Some participants note that objections to the report may stem from biases or narratives that certain studies could support.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the Cass Report's methodology and its implications, with no consensus reached regarding the validity of the criticisms or the appropriateness of excluding low-quality studies from systematic reviews.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include unresolved questions about the definitions of "low quality" and "high quality" studies, the impact of study exclusion on evidence synthesis, and the potential biases influencing participants' perspectives.

  • #31
After a Mentor discussion and the deletion of one somewhat OT post, the thread is reopened provisionally. Please remember the earlier caution in the thread to stay on topic in discussing this report. Thank you.
 
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dig6394 said:
This article explains multiple other issues with the review and I recommend reading it if you've read the Cass Review and are taking its findings seriously
https://law.yale.edu/sites/default/files/documents/integrity-project_cass-response.pdf
BMJ paper commenting on the Integrity Project paper linked above (McNamara et al) and another (Noone et al):
https://adc.bmj.com/content/early/2024/10/13/archdischild-2024-327994.info

It's only five pages long. Highlights (IMO) are that the authors see McNamara's paper as effectively a legal position paper (not peer reviewed, but immediately submitted in court cases) and not an attempt at objective commentary, and that Cass is, if anything, too generous in her ratings of the reliability of studies (Chen et al, Tordoff et al) that McNamara suggests were unfairly excluded.
 
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  • #33
Ibix said:
and another (Noone et al):
I can't tell if this is a joke or not.

"Who wrote the paper?"

"Noone et al."
:oldlaugh:
 
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berkeman said:
I can't tell if this is a joke or not.

"Who wrote the paper?"

"Noone et al."
:oldlaugh:
The Odysseus and the Cyclops resonance did cross my mind. However, I gather it's probably a variant on the surname O'Nuadhain, which means son of Nuadha (an Irish first name).
 
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Clearly nobody...er...no one...remembers Herman's Hermits.
 
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Vanadium 50 said:
Clearly nobody...er...no one...remembers Herman's Hermits.
Noone does, I think.
 
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