Undergrad Magnetic Field Generated By Moving Charged Objects - Confusion Explained

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The discussion clarifies the behavior of a magnetic needle in the presence of a charged line moving at a constant velocity. Observers in different frames of reference perceive the situation differently; one sees a magnetic field causing rotation, while another, at rest relative to the charged line, observes no magnetic field and thus no rotation. Ultimately, the forces from the magnetic and electric fields cancel each other out, resulting in no net force acting on the needle, confirming that it does not rotate in any frame.

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Suppose there is a charged line and near that line, there is a magnetic needle lying in the vertical plane of the line. The magnetic needle is radially placed. If the charged line and the magnetic needle are moving at a same constant velocity(parallel to the line, v<<c) towards an observer. I learn from the classic electrohydrodynamics that the observer will find there is a magnetic field and the magnetic needle will rotate. Am I right? Suppose there is another observer who is at rest relative to the charged line and needle, this observer will conclude that there is no magnetic field, so the magnetic needle will not rotate. What actually happened?Dose The needle rotate or not?
 
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hjwu said:
I learn from the classic electrohydrodynamics that the observer will find there is a magnetic field and the magnetic needle will rotate. Am I right?
No. There is a magnetic field, but there is also an electric field. The forces from each cancel out so that there is no net force.

The needle does not rotate in any frame.
 
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Dale said:
No. There is a magnetic field, but there is also an electric field. The forces from each cancel out so that there is no net force.

The needle does not rotate in any frame.
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