The correct answer is A only if B means the same thing as A implies B.

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The discussion revolves around the interpretation of the logical statement "A only if B" and its implications in mathematical reasoning. Participants explore the nuances of this notation, its relationship to truth tables, and how it contrasts with other logical expressions.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested, Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion regarding the interpretation of "A only if B," suggesting it implies A is a consequence of B, while others argue it actually means the reverse.
  • Another participant presents a truth table for "A only if B," indicating the possible truth values for A and B, and concludes that all cases are valid except for when A is true and B is false.
  • A later reply agrees with the interpretation that "A only if B" aligns with "if A then B," emphasizing that the only excluded case is when A is true and B is false.
  • There is a suggestion that the confusion may stem from mixing up "A only if B" with "A if B."

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants exhibit disagreement regarding the interpretation of "A only if B," with some asserting it implies a reverse relationship, while others clarify its logical meaning. The discussion remains unresolved as different interpretations are presented.

Contextual Notes

Participants do not fully agree on the implications of the statements, and there is uncertainty regarding the correct interpretation of related logical expressions.

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i don't understand why this notation is the same thing as

"A only if B"

to me "A only if B" reads that A is a consequence of B but of course it actually means the reverse.

same thing with A<->B being stated as

"A if and only if B"

to me this reads that again A is a consequence of B and is only true when B is true. I don't understand how it tells anything about B or how you read the reverse implication from it, as far as english goes.

woops i meant this for general math, wasn't looking.
 
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If we know that "A only if B", then which if these following cases are possible?

A is true and B is true.
A is true and B is false.
A is false and B is true.
A is false and B is false.
 
Hurkyl said:
If we know that "A only if B", then which if these following cases are possible?

A is true and B is true.
A is true and B is false.
A is false and B is true.
A is false and B is false.

if i were reading and interpreting the way I'm inclined to, back wards that is, all but the second. the correct answer is of course all but the third.

the truth table i would write for the statement "A only if B" is

B is true and A is true.
B is true and A is false.
B is false and A is true.
B is false and A is false.

now i would say all but the third.
 
ice109 said:
if i were reading and interpreting the way I'm inclined to, back wards that is, all but the second. the correct answer is of course all but the third.
You are interpreting it correctly... "A only if B" means the same thing as "if A then B", and the case it excludes is "A is true and B is false".

Maybe you are confusing "A only if B" with "A if B"?
 

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