The correct usage of self driving cars in SF

[Loren]

There's a weird perception in this thread that an SDV either needs a complete manual override or will only accept commands by complicated sat nav. What makes you think there won't be a stop button that causes the car to pull over as soon as is safe? And touching a way point on a screen that's already zoomed to your surroundings is easy. I have navigation apps on my phone that allow me to do that in seconds.

I think that it will be hard to convince the transportation authorities that a vehicle will not have a form of manual override to drive the vehicle for any number of reasons.

 

[mfb]

I think that it will be hard to convince the transportation authorities that a vehicle will not have a form of manual override to drive the vehicle for any number of reasons.

I think in a few decades it will be hard to convince the authorities to allow it (on public roads).

 

[GTOM]

I think that it will be hard to convince the transportation authorities that a vehicle will not have a form of manual override to drive the vehicle for any number of reasons.

http://www.thelocal.se/20151104/solar-storm-grounds-swedish-air-traffic

Until developed electronics can be so sensitive things, manual option shouldn't be removed entirely.

 

[mfb]

Human drivers are very sensitive to fog, and we can use cars without an alternative to human drivers.
Automatic cars don't need radar.

 

[GTOM]

Human drivers are very sensitive to fog, and we can use cars without an alternative to human drivers.
Automatic cars don't need radar.

The link also said a solar storm can also affect Gps signals that is bad for nav system. It also said that households suffered blackouts so radar isn't the only thing could possibly go haywire.
I think it isn't impossible to aid a human driver with a lidar less sensitive to fog neither.
Of course there are different areas and applications. Highway long boring routine sure robocar superior. Robotaxi one already prepared to surrender control when use a taxi. City traffic, lots of possibly unexpected things can happen. I remember when i learned to drive, there was a really large hole in the asphalt, we rather went around it. Or i saw advertisement of lidar black paint to avoid plate recognition.
And there are backwater areas without address. I like to note i am not against robocars it is also ok if driving is illegal until get around hole manuever for example don't count as driving. Entirely remove human control from personal car that is something i dislike.

 

[mfb]

It also said that households suffered blackouts so radar isn't the only thing could possibly go haywire.

Right, the electricity grid can also be affected. Imagine some ironic comment here on the effect on driving cars.
GPS is necessary to determine the initial location and useful for occasional updates, but cars don't have to depend on it. They can read street signs just like a human can do.

 

[GTOM]

Right, the electricity grid can also be affected. Imagine some ironic comment here on the effect on driving cars.
GPS is necessary to determine the initial location and useful for occasional updates, but cars don't have to depend on it. They can read street signs just like a human can do.

I know the effect on a car is negligable compared to effect on long range radars and power lines, i wondered whether it is negligable on their most sensitive electronic parts?
Okay we can agree even if it were a problem it can be solved, and i also think the law someone must be in the driving seat can be erased.
The only problem i have if they want to entirely remove human ability to directly control the car.
Someone mentioned Rainbow End before, there was a scene where they wanted to reach an area, but car said no, can't stop here. Finally they solved it with a chainsaw like thing.

Reality can produce an almost infinite number of really weird things, in an unexpected situation, a program is even less able to find out something than an average human.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-34754577 (Yes i know it isn't about cars, but unexpected situations.)

http://www.wired.com/2014/08/wireless-car-hack/