The Determinant of a Matrix with n+1 Ones: Is It Always -1, 0, or 1?

  • Context: MHB 
  • Thread starter Thread starter mathmari
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Determinant Matrix
Click For Summary
SUMMARY

The discussion centers on proving that the determinant of an n x n matrix A, containing n+1 ones and the rest zeros, can only yield values of -1, 0, or 1. The participants suggest using mathematical induction, starting with the base case of a 2x2 matrix, and progressing to larger matrices. They explore cases based on the arrangement of ones in the top row, leading to the conclusion that the determinant can indeed be -1, 0, or 1, depending on the configuration of the matrix.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of matrix determinants and properties
  • Familiarity with mathematical induction
  • Knowledge of Laplace expansion for determinants
  • Basic linear algebra concepts
NEXT STEPS
  • Study the properties of determinants in linear algebra
  • Learn about mathematical induction and its applications in proofs
  • Explore Laplace expansion in detail for determinant calculations
  • Investigate specific cases of determinants with varying numbers of ones
USEFUL FOR

Mathematicians, students studying linear algebra, and anyone interested in understanding the properties of determinants in matrices with specific configurations of elements.

mathmari
Gold Member
MHB
Messages
4,984
Reaction score
7
Hey! :o

Let $A \in\mathbb{R}^{n\times n}$, $n\geq 3$ be a matrix with $n+1$ elements $1$ and the remaining elements are $0$. I want to show that $\det (A)\in \{-1, 0, 1\}$ and each of these $3$ possible values can occur.

Could you give me a hint how we could show that? I got stuck right now. (Wondering)
 
Physics news on Phys.org
mathmari said:
Hey! :o

Let $A \in\mathbb{R}^{n\times n}$, $n\geq 3$ be a matrix with $n+1$ elements $1$ and the remaining elements are $0$. I want to show that $\det (A)\in \{-1, 0, 1\}$ and each of these $3$ possible values can occur.

Could you give me a hint how we could show that? I got stuck right now. (Wondering)

Hey mathmari! (Smile)

What about induction?
We can include the 2x2 matrix for which it also holds true.

Did you know that we can evaluate any determinant like this:
$$\begin{vmatrix} a & b & c & d\\e & f & g & h\\i & j & k & l\\m & n & o & p \end{vmatrix}=a\,\begin{vmatrix} f & g & h\\j & k & l\\n & o & p \end{vmatrix}-b\,\begin{vmatrix} e & g & h\\i & k & l\\m & o & p \end{vmatrix}+c\,\begin{vmatrix} e & f & h\\i & j & l\\m & n & p \end{vmatrix}-d\,\begin{vmatrix} e & f & g\\i & j & k\\m & n & o \end{vmatrix}$$
(Wondering)
 
I like Serena said:
Hey mathmari! (Smile)

What about induction?
We can include the 2x2 matrix for which it also holds true.

Did you know that we can evaluate any determinant like this:
$$\begin{vmatrix} a & b & c & d\\e & f & g & h\\i & j & k & l\\m & n & o & p \end{vmatrix}=a\,\begin{vmatrix} f & g & h\\j & k & l\\n & o & p \end{vmatrix}-b\,\begin{vmatrix} e & g & h\\i & k & l\\m & o & p \end{vmatrix}+c\,\begin{vmatrix} e & f & h\\i & j & l\\m & n & p \end{vmatrix}-d\,\begin{vmatrix} e & f & g\\i & j & k\\m & n & o \end{vmatrix}$$
(Wondering)

Base case:
For $n=2$ we have that $\begin{vmatrix} a & b \\ c & d\end{vmatrix}=ad-bc$.
Since $n+1=3$ elements are equal to $1$ we have that one element is $0$. That means that the result is either $1$ or $-1$.

For $n=3$ we have that $\begin{vmatrix} a & b & c\\ d & e & f \\ g & h & i\end{vmatrix}=a\,\begin{vmatrix} e & f \\ h & i\end{vmatrix}-b\,\begin{vmatrix} d & f \\g & i \end{vmatrix}+c\,\begin{vmatrix} d & e\\g & h \end{vmatrix}$.
Since $n+1=4$ elements are equal to $1$ we have that $9$ elements are equal to $0$.
If $a=b=c=0$ then the result is equal to $0$.
If at least one of the $a,b,c,d$ is non-zero, then we have from the previous case that the $2\times 2$ determinants will be equal to $1$ or $-1$. Therefore, the $3\times 3$ determinant will be equal to $-1$, $0$ or $1$.

Is this correct? Or could we improve the justification? (Wondering) Inductive hypothesis:
We suppose that $n\times n$ determinant will is equal to $-1$, $0$ or $1$. Inductive step:
The expansion of Laplace allows to reduce the computation of the $(n+1)\times (n+1)$ determinant to that of $n+1$ $(n\times n)$ determinants.
These $n+1$ determinants are equal to $-1$, $0$ or $1$.
We have $n+2$ elements that are equal to $1$ and the remaining ones are $0$.

How could we continue? I got stuck right now. (Wondering)
 
Let's distinguish 3 cases: the top row has only zeroes, it has exactly 1 one, or it has 2 or more ones... (Thinking)
 
I like Serena said:
Let's distinguish 3 cases: the top row has only zeroes, it has exactly 1 one, or it has 2 or more ones... (Thinking)

If the top row has only zeroes, then the determinant of $A$ is equal to $0$.

If the top row has exactly 1 one, then the determinant is equal to determinant of the $n\times n$ submatrix, of which the coefficient is $1$. From the inductive hypothesis we get that this will be equal to $-1$, $0$ or $1$, right? (Wondering)

If the top row has 2 or more ones, then the determinant of $A$ is equal to the determinant of the 2 or more $n$-submatrices. These, from the inductive hypothesis, will be equal to $-1$, $0$ or $1$. How do we know that the result is not $2$ for example? (Wondering)
 
Isn't the inductive hypothesis that an nxn matrix with n+1 ones is -1,0, or 1?
What if an nxn matrix has n ones? Or less than n ones?
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 14 ·
Replies
14
Views
3K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 10 ·
Replies
10
Views
3K
  • · Replies 52 ·
2
Replies
52
Views
4K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
1K
Replies
15
Views
2K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
2K