The Effects of Water on EM Waveforms

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This discussion centers on the effects of water and metals on electromagnetic (EM) waveforms, particularly in the context of radio frequency (RF) and microwave transmission. Participants clarify that water absorbs EM waves in the microwave spectrum and that metals do not attract EM waveforms but instead impose boundary conditions that affect reflection and absorption. The conversation also touches on the concepts of refraction and Snell's law, emphasizing the distinction between the shape of waveforms and the nature of electromagnetic radiation.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of electromagnetic waveforms and their properties
  • Knowledge of radio frequency (RF) and microwave spectrum
  • Familiarity with refraction and Snell's law
  • Basic principles of how metals interact with electromagnetic radiation
NEXT STEPS
  • Research the principles of electromagnetic wave propagation in different media
  • Learn about the interaction of RF waves with materials, including reflection and absorption
  • Study Snell's law and its application to RF and microwave frequencies
  • Explore the design and function of antennas in relation to electromagnetic radiation
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Electromagnetic theory students, RF engineers, antenna designers, and anyone interested in the interaction of water and metals with electromagnetic waveforms.

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What effect does water have on electromagnetic waveforms?

Does metal attract or reflect EM waveforms (specifically rf)?
 
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Attracts gravitationally.
 
so water absorbs (Microwave spectrum), correct? Is it correct to say that water distorts or just absorbs?

What exactly is meant by metal attracts gravitationally?
 
jastewart said:
What effect does water have on electromagnetic waveforms?

Does metal attract or reflect EM waveforms (specifically rf)?

This is a bit puzzling.

What exactly do you mean by "electromagnetic waveforms"?

Secondly, have you heard of refraction and snell's law?

Thirdly, metals do not attract EM waveforms. Metals and dielectrics impose boundary conditions to EM radiations.

It would help if you provide some context to these questions, and also background info on what you can understand.

Zz.
 
So, what I mean is in the realm of wifi, which I always thought to be rf. Since 2.4GHz is actually in the Microwave "region" if you will, of the electromagnetic spectrum, isn't that the correct way to refer to the actual transmission medium?

Specifically:
What exactly do you mean by "electromagnetic waveforms"? I thought this was the correct way to refer to any freq. whether it is rf, Microwave, UHF, etc.

Secondly, have you heard of refraction(yes, as it applies to light. Is it the same for rf/Microwaves?) and snell's law? I will research this.

Thirdly, metals do not attract EM waveforms. Metals and dielectrics impose boundary conditions to EM radiations. So rf bounces off of metal? Why then do they use metal for antennas to receive rf?
 
jastewart said:
So, what I mean is in the realm of wifi, which I always thought to be rf. Since 2.4GHz is actually in the Microwave "region" if you will, of the electromagnetic spectrum, isn't that the correct way to refer to the actual transmission medium?

Specifically:
What exactly do you mean by "electromagnetic waveforms"? I thought this was the correct way to refer to any freq. whether it is rf, Microwave, UHF, etc.

Secondly, have you heard of refraction(yes, as it applies to light. Is it the same for rf/Microwaves?) and snell's law? I will research this.

Thirdly, metals do not attract EM waveforms. Metals and dielectrics impose boundary conditions to EM radiations. So rf bounces off of metal? Why then do they use metal for antennas to receive rf?

There's a lot of mixed words and terminology here.

First of all, there is no "transmission medium".

Secondly, a "waveform" is typically referred to the SHAPE of the wave, ie wave profile. You are referring to, if I'm guessing correctly, the electromagnetic wave/radiation.

Thirdly, light, as in visible light, is part of the electromagnetic spectrum, which includes X-rays, microwaves, radio waves, gamma rays, infrared, etc.

Finally, when I say metallic and dielectrics impose boundary conditions on EM radiation, there is nothing in there that automatically ruled out transmission, reflection, absorption, etc. I have no idea before what context you are asking the question, so you got a generic answer.

If you are asking about antenna for transmission and reception, this has nothing to do with metals "attracting" EM radiation. It has more to do with metals having conduction electrons that are able to respond to external EM field or applied potential.

Zz.
 

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